denfly Posted May 27, 2015 Share #1 Posted May 27, 2015 I was watching a Korean War movie with Robert Ryan as a Lieutenant and Aldo Ray as a SSG (can't think of the name of the movie) and noticed the army characters were wearing marine covers on their M1 helmets. Is this a flub on the movie part or did the army actually use this type of camo during the Korean conflict? I have never seen pics of army service members wearing camo covers during that era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WW2JAKE Posted May 27, 2015 Share #2 Posted May 27, 2015 sounds like you are talking about "Men in War"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David D Posted May 27, 2015 Share #3 Posted May 27, 2015 Hollywood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WW2JAKE Posted May 27, 2015 Share #4 Posted May 27, 2015 just wanted to point out he appears to have a paratrooper chinstrap on one side of his helmet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David D Posted May 27, 2015 Share #5 Posted May 27, 2015 Yeah, it looks like an M1c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denfly Posted May 27, 2015 Author Share #6 Posted May 27, 2015 Here's some more of those covers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted May 27, 2015 Share #7 Posted May 27, 2015 Not common to see Marine covers but possible. There is a photo of WW2 6th Rangers in the Pacific wearing USMC covers. In Korea the 2nd Division could be seen with a variety of covers in the unit history Second to None 1951-52. A more common cover seen used was a burlap or cover made from sand bags.It appears the officers cut out the area in the cover to display rank. Major Gen.John C Fry wearing a cover made from parachute material.Intresting to see he has a German Luger as well in his shoulder holster.Probably a souviener fron his WW2 days.His cover looks like camo parachute material Pattern here looks close to a USMC cover but could be camo parachute material.I will have to look closer at the original photo for a front seam.Here the front is cut for rank as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted May 27, 2015 Share #8 Posted May 27, 2015 here s one example of the burlap/sand bag cover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denfly Posted May 27, 2015 Author Share #9 Posted May 27, 2015 The burlap I'm familiar with, it's the camo's that gets me. Interesting way to "recycle" parachute material Doyer. When I was in the army, I would use the patch of the camo scatter netting on my M1. That's the netting used to conseal areas such as artillery, bunkers, aircraft and HQ areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted May 27, 2015 Share #10 Posted May 27, 2015 One More From a Movie An image from the 1949 movie Home Of The Brave with Lloyd Bridges, James Edwards, Frank Lovejoy et al, We see in both photos the USMC Camouflage Cover being worn, strange these men were Army Soldiers. A movie that takes place in the South Pacific presumably towards the end of the Solomons Campaign like late 43 into the winter of 1944, it can be in theory these troops may have begged borrowed, or stolen these Gyrine Covers Photos came from this topic denfly, ever see it? http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/125061-some-hollywood-helmets/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doinworkinvans Posted May 27, 2015 Share #11 Posted May 27, 2015 I think key word here is "movie" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denfly Posted May 30, 2015 Author Share #12 Posted May 30, 2015 Kinda odd since most of the actors were veterans of WW2 so you would think they would point out these discrepencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted May 30, 2015 Share #13 Posted May 30, 2015 sgtdurango posted a group of helmet he got a while back.In the group is a USMC cover with a hole cut out as to show the rank beneath it.Im thinking in theory this was a army used cover in Korea as you tend to see the army do this on the covers they utilized of various types.Maybe he will post the picture here just for discusiion.I didnt want to snatch his photo. The cover(sgtdurangos) looks like the one in post 37 worn b Lt.Col Rankin.Right down to the sewn reinforced hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted May 30, 2015 Share #14 Posted May 30, 2015 Kinda odd since most of the actors were veterans of WW2 so you would think they would point out these discrepencies. True...but there again they are veterans and not "collectors". There were also vets in the movie Sands of Iwo Jima.Even three of the 2nd flag raising group. I recall there were former servicemen in the LOngest Day as wel and look how hokey the jump jackets and things were.Just a diferent time.They were more concerned with telling a story or the drammatics of it more so than the costumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted August 22, 2015 Share #15 Posted August 22, 2015 In the MASH Television show Marine helmet covers were seen quite a few times. Here's North Korean spies wearing them . Lets see, who else wore one, ah, Burns, O'Reilly, and Winchester, all three wore a helmet with a Marine cover on it a one time or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hudson Posted August 22, 2015 Share #16 Posted August 22, 2015 Just watched over-actor Nicholas Cage screw up a movie ostensibly about the Navajo codetalkers, but really about Cage's character. He was supposed to be a Marine but he always wore a net over his camo helmet cover: I'd thought the nets were an Army thing. And, I believe he was wearing camo at Guadalcanal. Yeah, in the movies, it doesn't even have to be close to be good enough. I'm sure the wardrobe department loved the Marine camo covers because they added some visual interest to an other otherwise olive drab world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WW2JAKE Posted August 22, 2015 Share #17 Posted August 22, 2015 Just watched over-actor Nicholas Cage screw up a movie ostensibly about the Navajo codetalkers, but really about Cage's character. He was supposed to be a Marine but he always wore a net over his camo helmet cover: I'd thought the nets were an Army thing. And, I believe he was wearing camo at Guadalcanal. Yeah, in the movies, it doesn't even have to be close to be good enough. I'm sure the wardrobe department loved the Marine camo covers because they added some visual interest to an other otherwise olive drab world. he definitely ruined that movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted August 22, 2015 Share #18 Posted August 22, 2015 Ah there is a real basis for nets over camo covers at least in the WWII Marine Corps guys, not wide spread to be sure, but here's but one photo of it on one guy . Wasn't the early scene with Cage wearing the net on Tarawa, or I'm I confused with Sands of Iwo Jima, which first showed the Battle of Tarawa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtdorango Posted August 22, 2015 Share #19 Posted August 22, 2015 Not common to see Marine covers but possible. There is a photo of WW2 6th Rangers in the Pacific wearing USMC covers. In Korea the 2nd Division could be seen with a variety of covers in the unit history Second to None 1951-52. A more common cover seen used was a burlap or cover made from sand bags.It appears the officers cut out the area in the cover to display rank. Major Gen.John C Fry wearing a cover made from parachute material.Intresting to see he has a German Luger as well in his shoulder holster.Probably a souviener fron his WW2 days.His cover looks like camo parachute material 2015_0526milstuff329130010.JPG Pattern here looks close to a USMC cover but could be camo parachute material.I will have to look closer at the original photo for a front seam.Here the front is cut for rank as well 2015_0526milstuff329130012.JPG Jeez!!....when i saw that photo of the Col. i almost fell off the couch....i will post a photo of the cover i have..your not gonna believe it but the guy i got it from said it came from a Cols. yardsale and it looks like the camo patterns line up perfectly with this cover in the photo...will post pics soon!!....mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustin Posted August 23, 2015 Share #20 Posted August 23, 2015 he definitely ruined that movie No John Woo ruined the movie! especially with his flame throwing explosions. Look at the type of movies he directs, he had no business directing this type of film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WW2JAKE Posted August 23, 2015 Share #21 Posted August 23, 2015 No John Woo ruined the movie! especially with his flame throwing explosions. Look at the type of movies he directs, he had no business directing this type of film. i suppose that didnt help. but Nicholas Cage butchered it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMC-RECON0321 Posted August 23, 2015 Share #22 Posted August 23, 2015 Jeez!!....when i saw that photo of the Col. i almost fell off the couch....i will post a photo of the cover i have..your not gonna believe it but the guy i got it from said it came from a Cols. yardsale and it looks like the camo patterns line up perfectly with this cover in the photo...will post pics soon!!....mike Look forward to seeing a side by side of the two pictures. That would be awesome and what are the odds?? Better go get a lottery ticket fast with that luck in play! Troy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted August 23, 2015 Share #23 Posted August 23, 2015 Now did anyone believe that a Japanese soldier, even a university educated officer would of been able to tell an American Indian??? Yah like they were on a special look out for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linedoggie Posted August 23, 2015 Share #24 Posted August 23, 2015 he definitely ruined that movie He didnt write it, and he wasnt the director who made every hand grenade blast into a Mini Napalm Strike. John Woo did that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WW2JAKE Posted August 23, 2015 Share #25 Posted August 23, 2015 He didnt write it, and he wasnt the director who made every hand grenade blast into a Mini Napalm Strike. John Woo did that true but even with bad explosions, it could have been better without him and his crazy face running around. If someone else had played the part it would have been better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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