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WWII GERMAN POW BRING BACK ITEM - HELP!


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stealthytyler

My grandfathers platoon buddy got this book during I believe Operation Dragoon near Sainte Maxime Southern France. I have photos from my grandpas buddy of German POWs on the beach. I would assume he took this book from a POW? It is possible he took it from a KIA? I am not sure. Is there any way I can find out more information on this German soldier? I believe his name is Heinz Wilsdorf and was born in 1907. I do not read German so I am limited to my knowledge of this book. Thanks for any help! Ideally, I would love to know what happened to him after the war and if his next of kin would be interested in a copy of this book (not sure how proud they would be though).

 

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Corpsman_1941

It's Wehrmacht soldiers book, it's kind of service record carried in uniforms pocket, I think it's quite possible that it was from KIA or POW because the latest date I can see is July 1944

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stealthytyler

It's Wehrmacht soldiers book, it's kind of personal record carried in uniforms pocket

 

Thanks, I am looking for more information on this soldier. What unit etc. and if it is possible to ID him after the war? Thanks

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Corpsman_1941

It seems that he served in infantry unit there is Sign "land. Schutz" I think it standard for landes schutze, schutze means shooter

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Corpsman_1941

There is also written that he was rifleman, he stationed in such cities as Paris and Glogau-now Polish Glogów

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manayunkman

The photo shows that he was an NCO candidate.

 

You can see a silver line on his shoulder board.

 

Did you show all the entries ?

 

If you have, it appears he was never wounded or sick nor did he get any awards.

 

Tarbridge is correct about WAF.

 

They have a forum devoted to ID books.

 

Here is a thread that I started concerning an ID book I got from an estate.

 

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=676489

 

I got a lot of help figuring it all out.

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stealthytyler

The photo shows that he was an NCO candidate.

 

You can see a silver line on his shoulder board.

 

Did you show all the entries ?

 

If you have, it appears he was never wounded or sick nor did he get any awards.

 

Tarbridge is correct about WAF.

 

They have a forum devoted to ID books.

 

Here is a thread that I started concerning an ID book I got from an estate.

 

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=676489

 

I got a lot of help figuring it all out.

 

I left out the pages that were blank...so yes, he never got awards

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There is a site that translates the printed (as opposed to handwritten) parts of a soldbuch page by page on the net. Not sure right now of the site, That may be what Manayunkman has in his note above. It's interesting to think a soldier had that on him the entire time he was in the service - a really personal piece of history.

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Bob Hudson

This pay book was also his official military ID. Genealogy can be tough, even in the US, and trying to find descendants of a WWII German soldier could be an uphill battle. You might want to hire someone who does genealogy research in Germany.

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stealthytyler

Was his last unit the GREN ERS BTL 222? Does anyone know what ERS stand for? Grenadier ERS Battalion 222... right?

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ERS is "Ersatz." Generally translated as "Replacement." This was not always the "Repple Depot" we are familiar with in the US military.

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He was KIA (or reported KIA) in August of 1944 and is burried at the German Cemetery at Dagneux (southern France). Block 17 series 9 grave 78. PMing you a PDF from the Volksbund website.

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stealthytyler

He was KIA (or reported KIA) in August of 1944 and is burried at the German Cemetery at Dagneux (southern France). Block 17 series 9 grave 78. PMing you a PDF from the Volksbund website.

 

Oh wow... I always assumed he was a POW. I never did ask him where he got it... My grandpas platoon landed near Sainte Maxime on August 15, 1944 during Operation Dragoon. The date seems to line up. Thanks

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Proud Kraut

Can anyone read his wife's name on page 5 of the book? Her name is written under his.

 

Her name was Ursula née Glag. His residence was Liebertwolkwitz (today a district of Leipzig), Großpösnaer Straße 32.

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stealthytyler

 

Her name was Ursula née Glag. His residence was Liebertwolkwitz (today a district of Leipzig), Großpösnaer Straße 32.

 

Wow good eyes! That you so much all. I have been trying to figure this out for a few years now. Although he was on the other team, it is still sad. I wonder if he has next of kin alive today? I wonder what they would think if they were to see this book? Interesting

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