automatic Posted May 7, 2015 Share #1 Posted May 7, 2015 I'm curious what was issued when, in what configuration, and how to tell commercial copies from real pieces. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriorityOne Posted May 8, 2015 Share #2 Posted May 8, 2015 Scorpian was the experimental pattern, it was in the CCU cut. Basically it will have less blobs and no vertical blobs, appears to be very faded or light. Early issue multicam (OEF-CP) will have coyote brown velcro and I believe that the early gen pants may have the velcro like earlier UCP, these should be contracted 2009. Your second gen multicam will be contracted 2010 and have the lighter tan velcro and the pants will have buttons, I have also seen some tops with button cuffs. The current issue multicam used to be called OCP, but with the new uniform coming out it will renamed to the old name, OEF-CP since the pattern will be considered OCP. The new uniform will have various changes with can be seen the link. This thread has some good info on the older stuff, a bit old though - http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/84012-multicam-again/?hl=scorpian https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fsoldiersystems.net%2Fcategory%2Fcamo%2F&ei=HKhMVf-4PI-ryATtyYC4Bg&usg=AFQjCNHnZIgyNGLr7FakXSxbItuHh2hjVQ&bvm=bv.92765956,d.aWw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatic Posted May 8, 2015 Author Share #3 Posted May 8, 2015 Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatic Posted May 16, 2015 Author Share #4 Posted May 16, 2015 Got my first multicam piece today, not positive but fairly sure its legit. If it is real, I think its fairly current production. The things that are sort of throwing me off are that something was sharpied over on the tag, and that IFF tape appears to have been there, but has been cut off. Anyway, lets see what you guys have to say about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Camouflage Pattern I Posted May 16, 2015 Share #5 Posted May 16, 2015 I got one today too, I'll post later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Dail Posted May 17, 2015 Share #6 Posted May 17, 2015 It is legit, they just marked out the contract number. Try pulling the tab/iff on the sleeve down and the glint tape should be under it if it has not been removed. Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatic Posted May 17, 2015 Author Share #7 Posted May 17, 2015 Thanks Allen. I checked for the tab, but it appears to have been cut off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriorityOne Posted May 17, 2015 Share #8 Posted May 17, 2015 That is how I get the from my wholesaler. It is required from the contractor to remove the IR tab before selling them as factory seconds, that is what yours is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Camouflage Pattern I Posted May 17, 2015 Share #9 Posted May 17, 2015 That is how I get the from my wholesaler. It is required from the contractor to remove the IR tab before selling them as factory seconds, that is what yours is. Mine has seen a great deal of use, and has no obvious defects yet still has no tab. What's the point of removing it anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriorityOne Posted May 17, 2015 Share #10 Posted May 17, 2015 So the "bad guys" don't have it basically. That is how they distinguish between friend or foe at night using NV equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Camouflage Pattern I Posted May 17, 2015 Share #11 Posted May 17, 2015 So the "bad guys" don't have it basically. That is how they distinguish between friend or foe at night using NV equipment. But anybody with $6 can buy a UCP ACU with the IR tabs, easier than buying multicam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriorityOne Posted May 17, 2015 Share #12 Posted May 17, 2015 It is no longer a combat uniform. IR taps can also not be sold overseas as far as I am aware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Camouflage Pattern I Posted May 17, 2015 Share #13 Posted May 17, 2015 Funny, I got some of my UCP ACUs while they were still the combat uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatic Posted May 17, 2015 Author Share #14 Posted May 17, 2015 Thanks for the explanation Priority! I'm happy its real, but now I'm on the search for one with the IFF still attached. When you get the time you should post some pics of yours, cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Camouflage Pattern I Posted May 18, 2015 Share #15 Posted May 18, 2015 Right, I'll try to tonight. I just found out mine does have the tabs, but rather than being on the velcro, they are on the nylon bit that folds over, unlike the contracted UCP ACU. Seems like a better placement, as it means they don't get in the way of patches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriorityOne Posted May 18, 2015 Share #16 Posted May 18, 2015 Right, I'll try to tonight. I just found out mine does have the tabs, but rather than being on the velcro, they are on the nylon bit that folds over, unlike the contracted UCP ACU. Seems like a better placement, as it means they don't get in the way of patches. Depending on the contractor, you see them both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Camouflage Pattern I Posted May 18, 2015 Share #17 Posted May 18, 2015 Some photos of multi-cam in use. Company C, 1st Battalion, 133rd Infantry Regiment, Task Force Ironman, from Iowa Falls, Iowa in Tupac, AfganistanI believe this is a combat shirt. Notice how the velcro is only large enough for the patches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Camouflage Pattern I Posted May 18, 2015 Share #18 Posted May 18, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Camouflage Pattern I Posted May 18, 2015 Share #19 Posted May 18, 2015 Photo by :US Navy HMC Josh Ives 2nd infantry division and something I can't identify. Note the combat shirts, this time with pockets and full Velcro. It appears this is the type with the IR tab on the Velcro, with a piece that covers it. Combat shirt, again with Velcro just the size of the patches. I belive the belt is a tan one for the UCP ACU, rather than the Coyote-Brown one that will be introduced with scorpion W2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Camouflage Pattern I Posted May 18, 2015 Share #20 Posted May 18, 2015 And here is the one I got. I just added the patches, they were not on it when I got it. Tab of unknown purpose, only on the left sleeve cuff. Showing the Multicam IR tab vs UCP. The zipper pull is made of Multicam, not plain bluish-grey as seen on UCP. 2010 contract by American Apparel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Camouflage Pattern I Posted May 18, 2015 Share #21 Posted May 18, 2015 More. This label actually says to remove the IR tabs before throwing away. And finally a view of the back, which shows multi-cam nicely, keep in mind that this is faded so the colors are lighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Dail Posted May 18, 2015 Share #22 Posted May 18, 2015 Cap Camoflage Pattern 1 The unknown tab on your left sleeve cuff shows that that shirt is the flame resistant version. The pants have this on the left cargo pocket flap i believe. This feature is also in the UCP versions. Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Camouflage Pattern I Posted May 18, 2015 Share #23 Posted May 18, 2015 Thanks Allen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatic Posted May 18, 2015 Author Share #24 Posted May 18, 2015 Nice ref pics and jacket, cap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatz50228 Posted May 18, 2015 Share #25 Posted May 18, 2015 These uniforms fade out a lot faster than the UCPs. The MULTICAMs can look as faded as your after only a month of washings even if only used at the office. My unit wore these for a month during reintegration after our 2013 deployment. I wore a brand new uniform home and wore then same one through reintegration and mine looked as worn as yours. Not sure if they are meant to fade this fast or not. Wade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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