varifleman Posted April 26, 2015 Share #1 Posted April 26, 2015 Here for your viewing pleasure is Winchester-Lee Model 1895 6mm Navy Rifle serial number 18003 with bayonet and scabbard. It was part of the second US Navy contract (serial numbers 15001-20000) inspected by Lt John N. Jordan (J.N.J as stamped on breech in photo 7) which were delivered from 1 August through 6 December 1898. Per the Winchester Repeating Fire Arms letter the serial number was applied to the on July 22, 1898; Caliber: N; received in warehouse on August 12, 1898 and shipped from warehouse on August 20, 1898; Order number 2689. It just missed the Spanish-American War but may have served during the Relief of the Foreign Legations in Peking during the Boxer Rebellion in 1900 or during the Philippine Insurrection 1899-1902. I'll have to see if I can track down the USN or USMC ship/unit which eventually received this rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knd643 Posted April 26, 2015 Share #2 Posted April 26, 2015 Should post the photos directly to the forum so links don't get broken and we cant see them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knd643 Posted April 26, 2015 Share #3 Posted April 26, 2015 pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warguy Posted April 26, 2015 Share #4 Posted April 26, 2015 Very nice example of a scarce rifle. Thanks for sharing. Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varifleman Posted April 26, 2015 Author Share #5 Posted April 26, 2015 Thanks knd643 for posting the photos; they show up when I use edit function but not in post; at 67 I'm not a computer whiz. Seems I've used up my quota linit for posting directly to forum or is there a way around that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wharfmaster Posted April 26, 2015 Share #6 Posted April 26, 2015 The Lee Navy is still found on the USMC Good Conduct Medal suspender. Wharf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Meatcan Posted April 26, 2015 Share #7 Posted April 26, 2015 That's a really nice example of a venerable rifle. Not one you see every day! Thanks for sharing. Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmchistorian Posted April 30, 2015 Share #8 Posted April 30, 2015 Nice example!! You're a very lucky man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayg Posted May 21, 2015 Share #9 Posted May 21, 2015 Nice one! I reload the 6mm ammo and shoot mine, Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL56 Posted October 12, 2020 Share #10 Posted October 12, 2020 On 5/20/2015 at 9:48 PM, rayg said: Nice one! I reload the 6mm ammo and shoot mine, Ray Ray, I just purchased a 1895 Winchester Lee Navy second contract rifle myself and want to shoot it. Would love to know your reload information. Tired of getting nowhere on the internet stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayg Posted October 13, 2020 Share #11 Posted October 13, 2020 I used 17 grs of 2400 and 9 grs black powder with the tennis ball patched with a thin paper napkin to give it a tight seal. The rifle at a 30% angle shot the ball over a 100 -125% yrds. When the rifle is aimed at a 45% angle or a bit more, the ball goes extremly high up and comes down about 90 yrs. The carboard cup shot holes in the ball, front and back until I put a strip of furnace tape on the bottom of the ball which protected it. The main thing is to get a real tight fit with the ball that's why I used the napkin. I found this out when we were using older used tennis balls that lost some of the fuzzies and then we used a new one which fit much tighter in the cup it shot a lot further. The napkin acts like a patch in a muzzle loader and made sure the balls fit tightly with no gas leak and it worked great. It's possible that the powder charge could even be reduced now because the napkin patch wasn't tried with the lower powder loads Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayg Posted October 13, 2020 Share #12 Posted October 13, 2020 PS I formed the cardboard cup for the neck using a punch the size of the mouth opening of the case neck and glued it in the case or you can use melted wax to hold the cup in the case...Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varifleman Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share #13 Posted October 13, 2020 Here are a box of 20 Remington-UMC 6mm USN rounds; single round; head stamps and S&S Firearms repro clip and wire. I also recently got an original clip/wire and will post photos later. I haven't shot my rifle with the original issue 6mm USN ammo and may wait to get modern reloads if available. Any idea re production date for this ammo? I'm guessing 1900 - 1920. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayg Posted October 14, 2020 Share #14 Posted October 14, 2020 Del56 Sorry my above post was for shooting a grenade out of a Lee Enfield.. Another poster asked that question.. I can't recall off hand what the load was as it's been awhile ago. .And my books with the info are at my other home in WI and I'm in Florida....Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misfit 45 Posted October 18, 2020 Share #15 Posted October 18, 2020 Great Lee-Navy! Here's the bayonet for it. Made by Remington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varifleman Posted October 18, 2020 Author Share #16 Posted October 18, 2020 Here's my bayonet similar to yours: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL56 Posted November 27, 2020 Share #17 Posted November 27, 2020 On 10/14/2020 at 5:19 AM, rayg said: Del56 Sorry my above post was for shooting a grenade out of a Lee Enfield.. Another poster asked that question.. I can't recall off hand what the load was as it's been awhile ago. .And my books with the info are at my other home in WI and I'm in Florida....Sorry I sure was scratching my head as I read your reply. Was wondering what universe you were in. Great to know it was ne of those mix up things. My Winchester Lee Navy is # 16787. Wondering where varifleman got his history as well. I'll post pictures of mine here soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottz63 Posted November 27, 2020 Share #18 Posted November 27, 2020 varifleman, that's a beautiful and rare rifle! I have always liked those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanJ Posted November 27, 2020 Share #19 Posted November 27, 2020 You may not be a computer whiz, but you have great tastes in rifles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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