Kazh Du Posted September 22, 2015 Share #151 Posted September 22, 2015 Hi there, here is a very classical navy Mc Cord made steel shell I own It is dark blue. Inside, the shell is still olive green. You can see stains of blue paint on the chinstrap. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hink441 Posted November 5, 2015 Share #152 Posted November 5, 2015 Found this WW2 rear seam helmet the other day. I believe this is painted with zinc chromate paint and is a USN helmet. There is a hole in the side and the heat lot number is 1180F. Second picture. The inside is also painted yellow. Very thick hand painted, runs all over the place. A real quality paint job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etienne Posted November 6, 2015 Share #153 Posted November 6, 2015 Found this WW2 rear seam helmet the other day. I believe this is painted with zinc chromate paint and is a USN helmet. There is a hole in the side and the heat lot number is 1180F. image.jpeg Hello, very nice and original painted Navy helmet Here is another non standard paint color, seems to be haze green ... Regards, E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsaye Posted November 7, 2015 Share #154 Posted November 7, 2015 Hello, very nice and original painted Navy helmet Here is another non standard paint color, seems to be haze green ... Regards, E . That is also Zinc Chromate. In the early 1970s there were 2 shades of Zinc for priming aluminum. Formula 34 and Formula 34D. One was yellow one was green. The purpose was to put one color on, then a second coat of the other shade. That way you could see if you missed any where. There was also a blue pre coat which was a preservative more than a primer. In theory, you painted something 3 times before you ever got to the color coat. In reality, it got a coat of whatever Zinc was handy then a coat of gray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hink441 Posted November 7, 2015 Share #155 Posted November 7, 2015 . That is also Zinc Chromate. In the early 1970s there were 2 shades of Zinc for priming aluminum. Formula 34 and Formula 34D. One was yellow one was green. The purpose was to put one color on, then a second coat of the other shade. That way you could see if you missed any where. There was also a blue pre coat which was a preservative more than a primer. In theory, you painted something 3 times before you ever got to the color coat. In reality, it got a coat of whatever Zinc was handy then a coat of gray Sigs, that is some great info, never knew about the green colored zinc chromate paint. In my days, the Airdales used a lot of the yellow zinc chromate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsaye Posted November 8, 2015 Share #156 Posted November 8, 2015 Sigs, that is some great info, never knew about the green colored zinc chromate paint. In my days, the Airdales used a lot of the yellow zinc chromate.. The different colors was so the Chief could see if you were leaving "Holidays" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etienne Posted November 8, 2015 Share #157 Posted November 8, 2015 . That is also Zinc Chromate. In the early 1970s there were 2 shades of Zinc for priming aluminum. Formula 34 and Formula 34D. One was yellow one was green. The purpose was to put one color on, then a second coat of the other shade. That way you could see if you missed any where. There was also a blue pre coat which was a preservative more than a primer. In theory, you painted something 3 times before you ever got to the color coat. In reality, it got a coat of whatever Zinc was handy then a coat of gray Hello, very interesting ... you're a gold mine of informations about US Navy practices (and for good reason, I guess) Thanks, E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvage Sailor Posted November 8, 2015 Share #158 Posted November 8, 2015 On 11/7/2015 at 9:38 PM, etienne said: Hello, very interesting ... you're a gold mine of informations about US Navy practices (and for good reason, I guess) Thanks, E .....and recurring dreams of chipping and scraping paint.....Ships' Company! TURN TO !!! Needle Gun and Wire Brush Photos: Haze Grey & DC Red Red Lead (primer) being chipped away from the diamond back decking with a needle gun GGRRRRPRUUTGGG!!!!!!! Zinc Chromate (yellow primer) - endless scraping, scraping, scraping, before priming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvage Sailor Posted November 8, 2015 Share #159 Posted November 8, 2015 Helmet ready rack, signal bridge, USS BOLSTER (ARS-38) Haze Grey and Underway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvage Sailor Posted November 8, 2015 Share #160 Posted November 8, 2015 Helmet ready rack on (smoke)stack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvage Sailor Posted November 8, 2015 Share #161 Posted November 8, 2015 3" gun crew, shot from above on signal bridge, USS CHOWANOC (ATF-100) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hink441 Posted November 8, 2015 Share #162 Posted November 8, 2015 .....and recurring dreams of chipping and scraping paint.....Ships' Company! TURN TO !!! Oh, I really miss the sound of the needle gun at work on the deck directly above your rack!!! Great times!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsaye Posted November 8, 2015 Share #163 Posted November 8, 2015 .....and recurring dreams of chipping and scraping paint.....Ships' Company! TURN TO !!! . Oh yeah!! Red Lead Primer. Out lawned by the Navy in the late 1980s, still chipping it up in the Mid 1990s?. I actually enjoyed Needle Gunning. You could just find a spot, and shut everything else out. I was still doing it as a Senior Chief. I'd dump the paper work on my SM1 and go "Bust Rust" ??⚓️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etienne Posted November 22, 2015 Share #164 Posted November 22, 2015 Hello, I am not generally well versed in officer's helmets but those Navy lids caught my eyes so I added them to my collection ... Regards, E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarheeltim Posted December 4, 2015 Share #165 Posted December 4, 2015 Here's a nice painted WWII Navy Helmet currently listed on eBay by forum member (item number 191749397249). I couldn't get link to copy. If one of you guys can provide link, please do. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hink441 Posted December 4, 2015 Share #166 Posted December 4, 2015 Here is the link http://www.ebay.com/itm/191749397249?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D191749397249%26_rdc%3D1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tball101 Posted January 4, 2016 Share #167 Posted January 4, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hink441 Posted February 12, 2016 Share #168 Posted February 12, 2016 Here is a nice Helmsman helmet I found recently. Dark gray over a lighter shade of gray, also some red underneath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpath Posted February 12, 2016 Share #169 Posted February 12, 2016 US Navy M1 Helmet with rank US Navy M1 Helmet with rank 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hink441 Posted February 13, 2016 Share #170 Posted February 13, 2016 Nice helmet, but what USN rank is painted on the front? Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsaye Posted February 13, 2016 Share #171 Posted February 13, 2016 Nice helmet, but what USN rank is painted on the front? Chris I would guess LT. The lack of a star, to me, indicates whoever did this simply didn't have a small enough brush (or skill). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broker Posted March 21, 2016 Share #172 Posted March 21, 2016 Gentlemen, There has been a lot of debate about whether a specific helmet that is attributed to naval service can be related to a particular conflict. Much like the OD paint found in M1 helmets from WWII and the different shades utilized in ensuing conflicts, there is a chance that the paint on naval helmets underwent some modifications in color according to the time frame the the helmet saw service. Could we start a topic beginning with identified helmets that are sure to have been used in WWII, Korea, VN and so on, in order to enable us to precisely pin down what colors were used? What is the source for this information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattS Posted March 21, 2016 Share #173 Posted March 21, 2016 What is the source for this information? The information that US Army M-1s wore different shades of paint over the 50 years they were used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broker Posted March 22, 2016 Share #174 Posted March 22, 2016 The information that US Army M-1s wore different shades of paint over the 50 years they were used? No, I understand that WW2, Korea, and Vietnam period helmets had different paint colors. I guess I misunderstood the statement thinking that the OP was referring to different theaters with various paint schemes. Anyway, I did find a navy helmet that I'll try to post pictures of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etienne Posted March 22, 2016 Share #175 Posted March 22, 2016 No, I understand that WW2, Korea, and Vietnam period helmets had different paint colors. I guess I misunderstood the statement thinking that the OP was referring to different theaters with various paint schemes. Hello, I think the OP's idea was that if we could relate paint colors and schemes to eras, with identified or precisely dated helmets, it would be a good starting point to date other USN helmets. Because there was a evolution of paint colors used by the US Navy from ww2 to recent years, it could be possible but I think that there's not enough id'd helmets to build a significant and comprehensive data base. E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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