Sgt127 Posted October 17, 2020 Share #151 Posted October 17, 2020 I’m sorry. “9”. Stamped 9 is top picture. M131A bottom picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WW2JAKE Posted October 17, 2020 Author Share #152 Posted October 17, 2020 49 minutes ago, Sgt127 said: I’m sorry. “9”. Stamped 9 is top picture. M131A bottom picture. The one with the M is a 50's era McCord helmet. The other one is guess is Parish from the 60's also note there is more to the stamp which and be seen in front for sure and possibly behind the 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt127 Posted October 18, 2020 Share #153 Posted October 18, 2020 Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewehr43 Posted February 6, 2022 Share #154 Posted February 6, 2022 4/9/2015 tarihinde 11:19 AM, WW2JAKE şunları söyledi: İkinci Dünya Savaşı sonrası ortası (tam üretim yıllarının ortası.) M ve sonra 3 ila 4 sayı, sonra 2. Ingersoll- 1966- 1968 lot olarak kabul edildi, 4 değişkenda 1-76 1-76 1 9876 I- 9876 ben 9876 Hello, I have a helmet produced by the American mc cord, which the Turkish armed forces most likely used in the Korean war, I was able to reach this pure beauty after removing 9 layers of paint (Turkish armed forces used the m1 helmet until the end of the 90s)[Sory bad english/google translate] If you don't mind, can I get more information (year of manufacture) about the helmet and the stamp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WW2JAKE Posted February 6, 2022 Author Share #155 Posted February 6, 2022 41 minutes ago, gewehr43 said: Hello, I have a helmet produced by the American mc cord, which the Turkish armed forces most likely used in the Korean war, I was able to reach this pure beauty after removing 9 layers of paint (Turkish armed forces used the m1 helmet until the end of the 90s)[Sory bad english/google translate] If you don't mind, can I get more information (year of manufacture) about the helmet and the stamp? Based on the lot number it is from McCord's 1950's run. Exact year is nearly impossible to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeym_us Posted March 4, 2022 Share #156 Posted March 4, 2022 I have a High dome M1 with the numbers 6761 large type what manufacturer did that? And it came with a 1962 dated Firestone P55 liner as well. And I used pencil lead to help the numbers stand out for the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twthmoses Posted March 4, 2022 Share #157 Posted March 4, 2022 On 2/6/2022 at 7:02 PM, gewehr43 said: Hello, I have a helmet produced by the American mc cord, which the Turkish armed forces most likely used in the Korean war, I was able to reach this pure beauty after removing 9 layers of paint (Turkish armed forces used the m1 helmet until the end of the 90s)[Sory bad english/google translate] If you don't mind, can I get more information (year of manufacture) about the helmet and the stamp? It is a McCord shell. Lot M-170A is from their December 1952 contract, roughly 1/3 though the contract. Therefore, it is from something like March/April 1953. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twthmoses Posted March 4, 2022 Share #158 Posted March 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Mikeym_us said: I have a High dome M1 with the numbers 6761 large type what manufacturer did that? And it came with a 1962 dated Firestone P55 liner as well. And I used pencil lead to help the numbers stand out for the picture. It is an R. J. Stampings shell, from the Sainte-Anne-des-Plaines plant (R. J. Stampings plant No. 2). I believe this is at the near end of the October 1973 contract, so the shell is roughly from June/July 1974. Like to see more images of this shell, loops, seam, overall inside and outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeym_us Posted March 4, 2022 Share #159 Posted March 4, 2022 32 minutes ago, twthmoses said: It is an R. J. Stampings shell, from the Sainte-Anne-des-Plaines plant (R. J. Stampings plant No. 2). I believe this is at the near end of the October 1973 contract, so the shell is roughly from June/July 1974. Like to see more images of this shell, loops, seam, overall inside and outside. Here is the helmet along with a 1951 McCord for height comparison. I have a R.J. Stampings helmet shell and it doesn't look like this one the bales and hinges on that shell are larger than the ones on this one I photographed. Oh and the old Olive Drab paint is starting to show through on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twthmoses Posted March 4, 2022 Share #160 Posted March 4, 2022 32 minutes ago, Mikeym_us said: Here is the helmet along with a 1951 McCord for height comparison. I have a R.J. Stampings helmet shell and it doesn't look like this one the bales and hinges on that shell are larger than the ones on this one I photographed. Oh and the old Olive Drab paint is starting to show through on this one. Really need to see the lot stamp, loops and seam up close to make an accurate assessment of one or the other R.J Stampings shell. The 6761 stamp you have is an R. J. Stampings shell made at R. J. Stampings plant No 2 at Sainte-Anne-des-Plaines, Quebec. You might have another R. J. Stampings shell from the R. J. Stampings plant No 5 at Smiths Falls, Ontario. They look slightly different and uses another stamp. They are made from august 1981 to April 1982. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeym_us Posted March 4, 2022 Share #161 Posted March 4, 2022 here are the closeups And there is a grand total of 12 dimples on the rim 4 total on the rear seam alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twthmoses Posted March 6, 2022 Share #162 Posted March 6, 2022 On 3/4/2022 at 10:36 PM, Mikeym_us said: here are the closeups And there is a grand total of 12 dimples on the rim 4 total on the rear seam alone. Very nice, and thanks for the good images. Can only repeat, that this is an R. J. Stampings shell produced at the Sainte-Anne-des-Plaines plant in Quebec, roughly in mid-1974. These large font 4-number stamps do not seem come up that often, despite around 2.5 mill of them was manufactured. The smaller 3-number stamps seem to come up more frequent but only about 650.000 of these was produced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeym_us Posted March 18, 2022 Share #163 Posted March 18, 2022 On 3/6/2022 at 11:03 AM, twthmoses said: Very nice, and thanks for the good images. Can only repeat, that this is an R. J. Stampings shell produced at the Sainte-Anne-des-Plaines plant in Quebec, roughly in mid-1974. These large font 4-number stamps do not seem come up that often, despite around 2.5 mill of them was manufactured. The smaller 3-number stamps seem to come up more frequent but only about 650.000 of these was produced. I don't know if you ever saw that I wrote that this is a High dome helmet. R.J. Stampings only did the M1964 Low dome helmets and In my picture of the exterior there is 10 Y Munsel paint clearly evident showing through the Pea Green paint and if you look at the rim of the same photo you will see a paint chipped rim painted over by the pea green paint which means this helmet was made before 1974 as 10 Y Munsel was phased out 6 (1968) years before R.J. Stampings got the contract to make M1 shells and would have been using the current paint color. There was a US manufacturer who did use large numbers for the heat lot stamps I believe it was either Reyes or Reese. And I do own a R.J. Stampings Low Dome helmet that was issued and still retains the silver duct tape on the bales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twthmoses Posted March 19, 2022 Share #164 Posted March 19, 2022 16 hours ago, Mikeym_us said: I don't know if you ever saw that I wrote that this is a High dome helmet. R.J. Stampings only did the M1964 Low dome helmets and In my picture of the exterior there is 10 Y Munsel paint clearly evident showing through the Pea Green paint and if you look at the rim of the same photo you will see a paint chipped rim painted over by the pea green paint which means this helmet was made before 1974 as 10 Y Munsel was phased out 6 (1968) years before R.J. Stampings got the contract to make M1 shells and would have been using the current paint color. There was a US manufacturer who did use large numbers for the heat lot stamps I believe it was either Reyes or Reese. And I do own a R.J. Stampings Low Dome helmet that was issued and still retains the silver duct tape on the bales. I did read you. I do not know any M1 shell produces named Reyes or Reese, but very interesting. You mention the silver duct tape on the loops. Indeed a R. J. Stampings shell. Will have a stamp of three numbers. It was made at R.J Stampings Plant No. 5 at Smiths Falls, Ontario between august 1981 and April 1982. This shell you show here is also an R.J Stampings shell, but it was made at R.J Stampings Plant No. 5 at Sainte-Anne-des-Plaines, Quebec, from April 1970 to august 1977, yours being around mid-1974. The Smiths Falls plant was a new plant that opened in September 1979. Using new machines, tools, die’s and employees, their shells will look slightly different from the old Stampings shells. Colors is one thing I normally refrain from comment on. It is a tricky business. The digital transmission from one person to another adds a multitude of error possibilities. The camera one uses to take the image, the environment when you take the image, the digital image format, and the LCD used to watch it. Add to this that no two persons sees colors equal. In order to use the Munsell color charts, all the info need to be included. Munsell 10YR is not enough. 10YR is a plate of colors. You also need how light and dark it is and how weak and strong, like, Munsell 10YR 3/3 – which I believe is the color M1 helmets was supposed to be painted in since 1968 to the end when R. J Stampings finished the very last DSA contract in April 1982. Whether they were, I could not say. I imagine any number of nuances came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeym_us Posted March 19, 2022 Share #165 Posted March 19, 2022 On 2/6/2022 at 1:45 PM, WW2JAKE said: Based on the lot number it is from McCord's 1950's run. Exact year is nearly impossible to say. With that being the A lift I would probably say 1950 at the earliest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeym_us Posted March 19, 2022 Share #166 Posted March 19, 2022 4 hours ago, twthmoses said: I did read you. I do not know any M1 shell produces named Reyes or Reese, but very interesting. You mention the silver duct tape on the loops. Indeed a R. J. Stampings shell. Will have a stamp of three numbers. It was made at R.J Stampings Plant No. 5 at Smiths Falls, Ontario between august 1981 and April 1982. This shell you show here is also an R.J Stampings shell, but it was made at R.J Stampings Plant No. 5 at Sainte-Anne-des-Plaines, Quebec, from April 1970 to august 1977, yours being around mid-1974. The Smiths Falls plant was a new plant that opened in September 1979. Using new machines, tools, die’s and employees, their shells will look slightly different from the old Stampings shells. Colors is one thing I normally refrain from comment on. It is a tricky business. The digital transmission from one person to another adds a multitude of error possibilities. The camera one uses to take the image, the environment when you take the image, the digital image format, and the LCD used to watch it. Add to this that no two persons sees colors equal. In order to use the Munsell color charts, all the info need to be included. Munsell 10YR is not enough. 10YR is a plate of colors. You also need how light and dark it is and how weak and strong, like, Munsell 10YR 3/3 – which I believe is the color M1 helmets was supposed to be painted in since 1968 to the end when R. J Stampings finished the very last DSA contract in April 1982. Whether they were, I could not say. I imagine any number of nuances came out. Then mine must be a rare R.J. Stampings M1950 pattern M1 shell because the liners of my WWII McCord Front seam swivel bail and my McCord rear seam swivel bail from 1951 all fit in it. I can't even get a P64 liner to fit in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewehr43 Posted September 7, 2022 Share #167 Posted September 7, 2022 Hello again, this time I will ask for an estimated time help for my friend's m1 helmet, what period do you think it belongs to (as far as we can read, it says M97C) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickman983 Posted September 7, 2022 Share #168 Posted September 7, 2022 2 hours ago, gewehr43 said: Hello again, this time I will ask for an estimated time help for my friend's m1 helmet, what period do you think it belongs to (as far as we can read, it says M97C) From here it looks like 1197C, which would be late WWII production, but post WWII use based on the repaint(s) and replaced chinstraps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberto1361 Posted October 29, 2022 Share #169 Posted October 29, 2022 I'm confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WW2JAKE Posted October 29, 2022 Author Share #170 Posted October 29, 2022 5 hours ago, alberto1361 said: I'm confused. Can you elaborate on your confusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrickflan Posted November 11, 2022 Share #171 Posted November 11, 2022 I have a fixed bail mccord with a heat stamp of 04B can someone help me date this. thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickman983 Posted November 11, 2022 Share #172 Posted November 11, 2022 3 hours ago, Patrickflan said: I have a fixed bail mccord with a heat stamp of 04B can someone help me date this. thank you It's likely that there's a 3rd number in the heat stamp that didn't get struck well. Don't scratch at the paint to try to reveal it more, but posting more pictures of the helmet would be helpful. The US reused helmets until they were unfit for service, so looking at the heat stamp can give you an idea of when it was produced but nothing beyond that. The whole picture needs to be taken into consideration to try to put a date on a helmet and even then it's often just a somewhat educated guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrickflan Posted November 12, 2022 Share #173 Posted November 12, 2022 This is the helmet , it’s hard to get a picture of the stamp but with my eyes and flashlight , there is no third number. Just the 04b. it is a fixed never altered to swivel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBee Posted February 4, 2023 Share #174 Posted February 4, 2023 I recently purchased this M1 helmet, and I believe it’s an RJ stampings produced M1 helmet, the heat stamp is 700, I would appreciate any further knowledge on year, rarity, and other specs. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickman983 Posted February 4, 2023 Share #175 Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, KingBee said: I recently purchased this M1 helmet, and I believe it’s an RJ stampings produced M1 helmet, the heat stamp is 700, I would appreciate any further knowledge on year, rarity, and other specs. Thank you I believe these were 70s production. Not particularly rare or anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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