bellasilva Posted February 24, 2015 Share #1 Posted February 24, 2015 I'm finally starting to put together and replicate the class A uniform of a soldier's dog tag that I own. He served as a rifleman in the 11th Infantry Brigade in Vietnam from 1969-1970 and was wounded very late in his tour, from what I understand right before his year was up. These are the decorations he was awarded. I had the ribbon rack made up at the local Army/Navy shop today and was wondering if the ribbon placement was correct. Thanks in advance gents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sully Posted February 24, 2015 Share #2 Posted February 24, 2015 They are in the correct order. If you have need of checking on something like this again there a few websites where you can build ribbon rack and they are automatically placed in the correct order. http://www.myservicepride.com/rack-builder.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellasilva Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share #3 Posted February 24, 2015 Now why didn't I think of that.. Thanks a bunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve B. Posted February 24, 2015 Share #4 Posted February 24, 2015 You have to be careful using on-line ribbon rack builders. The regs have changed over the years. I don't remember the exact dates, but the Purple Heart used to rate lower than the Army Commendation Medal for example, but that has now changed. If this man also had an ARCOM and you used a modern rack builder, it would be wrong for his era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellasilva Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share #5 Posted February 24, 2015 Interesting, I had no idea. Thankfully his dog tag came with his freedom of information act paperwork so all his awards were listed. What's odd to me is there isn't a CIB listed, and his specific company being rather infamous at the time, they are extremely well documented and have daily reports from every single day the company was in Vietnam from 1967-1971. They took contact, including WIAs and KIAs almost every single day. I've seen similar paperwork with CIBs listed. Thanks for the help guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne1968 Posted February 24, 2015 Share #6 Posted February 24, 2015 The change for the Purple heart took place I the early 1980s. Concerning the CIB, perhaps this fellow wasn't an infantryman. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellasilva Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share #7 Posted February 24, 2015 He actually was a rifleman and is listed so on the Company rosters while in Vietnam, and in his file as well, which makes it odd. I suppose it just isn't listed for whatever reason.. Here are a couple shots from his file just for the sake of posting them..I've been studying his service in - depth for a while now..it's probably my favorite tag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne1968 Posted February 26, 2015 Share #8 Posted February 26, 2015 Can you add a pic of the complete fourth column that lists all his unit assignments? I see that he was assigned to the ACC in 1969. Also, the Americal Combat Center was part of the Division Support Command (not an infantry unit) likely making him ineligible for the CIB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellasilva Posted February 26, 2015 Author Share #9 Posted February 26, 2015 Sure, here ya go- he was a student at the Americal Combat Center for 7 days upon his arrival to Vietnam, where he's then assigned to Charlie Company of the 20th Inf Regt, 11th Inf Bde as a rifleman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1SG_1st_Cav Posted February 27, 2015 Share #10 Posted February 27, 2015 That is the correct placement of the ribbons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvmhm Posted February 27, 2015 Share #11 Posted February 27, 2015 You might want to redact the SSN visible on the tag. Also check the Lineage and Honors for his unit because he might have other ribbons he's entitled to that were approved after he left e.g. MUC, PUC, etc. Also, all MACV units were awarded the ARVN Gallantry Cross Unit Citation with Palm by the South Vietnamese government before it fell. Mark sends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellasilva Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share #12 Posted February 27, 2015 Will do Mark, thanks. As far as the SSN goes, unfortunately he passed away January of last year which is why I decided to leave it there..unless that's still a no-no? His company is very well documented so I'll get cracking on the lineage and honors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne1968 Posted February 28, 2015 Share #13 Posted February 28, 2015 Thanks for adding the 4th column. After looking at the dailies and seeing the unit history I really do not see why he shouldn't have a CIB. Perhaps it is like Mark said above "approved after he left the unit" or it was simply left off of his record. Experience has taught me that if I didn't inform the records person of my awards they didn't always make it into my records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellasilva Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share #14 Posted February 28, 2015 Thanks Tom. I definitely found it odd. This may completely wrong but I'm wondering if it wasn't listed due to just a lack of space in the awards section of the paperwork. If I remember correctly it was filled up with the list of ribbons he would've worn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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