Username Posted February 22, 2015 Author Share #26 Posted February 22, 2015 I have found a couple pencil markings inside. Perhaps to be used during manufacturing. There is an X written in pencil and "in" written in pencil near the belt hook stitch. The word "in" is upside down in the photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Username Posted February 22, 2015 Author Share #27 Posted February 22, 2015 I noticed the thread used on the cover is a very similar shade to the thread used on one of my P2 second pattern canteen covers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Username Posted February 22, 2015 Author Share #28 Posted February 22, 2015 Heres the cover next to my used and unmarked second pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Username Posted February 22, 2015 Author Share #29 Posted February 22, 2015 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Username Posted February 22, 2015 Author Share #30 Posted February 22, 2015 The fabric on this cover is identical to my used one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Username Posted February 22, 2015 Author Share #31 Posted February 22, 2015 Although this cover is alarmingly mint, I think it is most likely the real deal. Everything seems correct and its construction is typical of early usmc items I have seen. I'm very happy with this cover. Perhaps "in" is written on the inside of the belt hook stitch and "out" is written on the outside. The "out" would be under the stitch so theres know way to tell for sure. Higher quality photos with zoom can be found here: http://imgur.com/CHqZr2u,JlqvVYt,3ZmRm8v,Ky39X63,R2BdFvs,nqznrVn,RXSAIxZ,fr4bSqV,BqauDGm,UxgF3DB,Ueg5US4,mNjxLNn,3ixTQkc#9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMCman01 Posted February 22, 2015 Share #32 Posted February 22, 2015 It truly is a stone mint item. I like these kind of items because it shows what they would have looked like when issued. Overall very cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellumbill Posted February 22, 2015 Share #33 Posted February 22, 2015 Agree - I think these are good - I also love the "20th Company" stenciled on the back! Thanks for posting! Very best, Bill K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellumbill Posted February 22, 2015 Share #34 Posted February 22, 2015 I believe the 1920's - 1930's made usmc gear where the only ones stamped usmc. I recall seeing a usmc stamped first aid pouch, shovel cover, pick mattock cover, canteen cover and a haversack with pack tail. So I would assume most other usmc stamped items would have to be either custom done or fake. I'm not sure about the usmc marked drum pouches, I have heard people say its fake and others say they are the real deal. Username - You might be right but on the other hand how do we really know this? Without any documentation or photos sometimes I think it sounds a bit like collectors saying "well the stuff I have is correct but the stuff you have isn't". Who knows, perhaps early in WWII the marines started stamping some of their gear with "USMC" and then the war escalated so quickly and they needed so much equipment so quickly they simply abandoned the process? Not saying I am right just something to think about with this stuff. That said, your comments and others are noted and will go in the data bank. Very best, Bill K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Username Posted February 22, 2015 Author Share #35 Posted February 22, 2015 Username - You might be right but on the other hand how do we really know this? Without any documentation or photos sometimes I think it sounds a bit like collectors saying "well the stuff I have is correct but the stuff you have isn't". Who knows, perhaps early in WWII the marines started stamping some of their gear with "USMC" and then the war escalated so quickly and they needed so much equipment so quickly they simply abandoned the process? Not saying I am right just something to think about with this stuff. That said, your comments and others are noted and will go in the data bank. Very best, Bill K. I have seen many usmc issue items stamped with usmc. I don't think it makes them any less authentic, but perhaps they weren't factory applied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellumbill Posted February 23, 2015 Share #36 Posted February 23, 2015 Username - Well said, I tend to agree - I hope you see my point as well in my post. Very best! Bill K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronny67 Posted February 23, 2015 Share #37 Posted February 23, 2015 It truly is a stone mint item. I like these kind of items because it shows what they would have looked like when issued. Overall very cool. Every time someone uses the term "Stone Mint".... But for real though great items thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Flage Guy Posted February 23, 2015 Share #38 Posted February 23, 2015 And speaking of proper shapes on this stuff, here is a good illustration of how they likely were not terribly fussy at the ol' DQP. The one in the center looks to be the most perfect of the lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1987 Posted February 23, 2015 Share #39 Posted February 23, 2015 Hi, After seeing some more photos and details, I'm fairly confident the pouch is the real deal. A lot fresher than normal for sure. Cheers, -Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMCman01 Posted February 23, 2015 Share #40 Posted February 23, 2015 The cover on the left is the one I was talking about being so triangular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1a2u2 Posted December 30, 2018 Share #41 Posted December 30, 2018 Also, here's one of those pieces made in the late '30s which was stamped on the outside, shown with an M1912 Pistol Belt of the same stripe. There is a thread on the Forum which contains period photos of these in use in the late '30s and early '40s. I'm curious what is it about this cover that sets it apart from other fakes. The overall consensus on this forum has always been that any etool pouches marked USMC on the outside were fake. Is there information that these were used in the 1930s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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