dustin Posted February 7, 2015 Share #1 Posted February 7, 2015 This was part of a proposed modification for Lighter than Air blimps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccyooper Posted February 7, 2015 Share #2 Posted February 7, 2015 Dustin, Great threads, keep them coming.... and a much later model still in the wrap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronny67 Posted February 9, 2015 Share #3 Posted February 9, 2015 Wait. Is that a Mint 1918A2 in cosmoline wrap? I may be nailed to the cross for saying this, but I would unwrap that so fast... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccyooper Posted February 9, 2015 Share #4 Posted February 9, 2015 Actually, two of them .. one is one of the rare type, so I am told, bronze colored ones... brand new with BII ... as found in a warehouse at Anniston.. right next to the Indiana Jones box a few years ago... couldn't find the IJ box on subsequent trips.. but you saw the size of that warehouse didn't you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ad82recon Posted February 9, 2015 Share #5 Posted February 9, 2015 Youre kidding me right......2 x new BARs still in the wrap ? Oh lord Regards Lloyd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted February 10, 2015 Share #6 Posted February 10, 2015 Have you ever come across the BAR that was featured in the US Guns of WWII episode of Tales of the Gun? it had a very unusual belt in the box that was made up of two sections of three pockets each, with a strap rather than a flap, and each half going over a pistol belt for wear. They were for sale from Numrich for a long time. I started a thread on them 3 years ago: http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/159701-does-anyone-know-what-this-belt-is-and-where-it-came-from/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa Posted February 10, 2015 Share #7 Posted February 10, 2015 YOU GUYS WOULD BE VERY SURPRISED AT WHAT IS AT ANNISTON DEPOT. THEY HAVE ONE HELL OF A LARGE AND BEAUTIFUL ASSORTMENT OF NEVER ISSUED WEAPONS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronny67 Posted February 10, 2015 Share #8 Posted February 10, 2015 Actually, two of them .. one is one of the rare type, so I am told, bronze colored ones... brand new with BII ... as found in a warehouse at Anniston.. right next to the Indiana Jones box a few years ago... couldn't find the IJ box on subsequent trips.. but you saw the size of that warehouse didn't you! This is one of the coolest things I have ever seen on this forum. THANK YOU for sharing!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccyooper Posted February 10, 2015 Share #9 Posted February 10, 2015 Front of the Bronze colored BAR.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccyooper Posted February 10, 2015 Share #10 Posted February 10, 2015 I have to apologize to Dustin for changing the flavor this thread... here a couple of pics from the web (KH gunboards) to get it back on track.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccyooper Posted February 10, 2015 Share #11 Posted February 10, 2015 Big Al, Only in your previous post and the discussion that followed. I think I have seen another discussion regarding one on ebay a while back but nothing official. These boxes both had a standard type of belt and not the one pictured in your previous post. Regards, CC Have you ever come across the BAR that was featured in the US Guns of WWII episode of Tales of the Gun? it had a very unusual belt in the box that was made up of two sections of three pockets each, with a strap rather than a flap, and each half going over a pistol belt for wear. They were for sale from Numrich for a long time. I started a thread on them 3 years ago: http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/159701-does-anyone-know-what-this-belt-is-and-where-it-came-from/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROBS Posted February 10, 2015 Share #12 Posted February 10, 2015 I WANT SO BAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MT247 Posted February 10, 2015 Share #13 Posted February 10, 2015 Thats one of the coolest things I have ever seen, look at that bad mamajama, still wrapped. I want to look in that depot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROBS Posted February 10, 2015 Share #14 Posted February 10, 2015 ccyooper.... how did you see it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldabewla Posted February 11, 2015 Share #15 Posted February 11, 2015 If you live long enough you'll see everything! I saw a show years ago on TV 60 minutes? how all of this was saved by the US government for future references and studies. Nice Gov property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronny67 Posted February 11, 2015 Share #16 Posted February 11, 2015 In response to the original post, why would the USAAF invest in developing the BAR as an AA role, if the 1919 LMG was readily available? Having to reload 20rd magazines sounds like a pain in aerial combat, as well as the un-changeable BAR barrels... One would think a aircooled-belt fed LMGs would do much better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccyooper Posted February 11, 2015 Share #17 Posted February 11, 2015 I concur, but the weapon was being developed for antisubmarine use. Planes could not loiter long enough along the coast so the experiment was to use blimps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted February 11, 2015 Share #18 Posted February 11, 2015 In response to the original post, why would the USAAF invest in developing the BAR as an AA role, if the 1919 LMG was readily available? Having to reload 20rd magazines sounds like a pain in aerial combat, as well as the un-changeable BAR barrels... One would think a aircooled-belt fed LMGs would do much better... First thing, only the Navy operated blimps. Second, at 15.4 pounds unloaded, the BAR was lighter than even the A-N M2 .30 caliber aircraft machine gun (which I believe is what you meant, because the M1919A4 was a ground machine gun, never used as an aircraft gun). So, in a blimp installation, where everything needs to be as light as possible to get maximum performance, it actually makes a lot of sense, especially with the 30-round (estimated from the witness holes) magazine shown at the top of the page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippo66 Posted February 11, 2015 Share #19 Posted February 11, 2015 Somehow I get the feeling armed blimps might not one of the Navy's better ideas. I would not want to be in the blimp when forces on ground start shooting back. These are great photo's. Would love to own one of the BARs. Thanks for posting ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omaha44 Posted February 12, 2015 Share #20 Posted February 12, 2015 incredible a bar in the cosmoline original box...I want it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atb Posted February 12, 2015 Share #21 Posted February 12, 2015 Somehow I get the feeling armed blimps might not one of the Navy's better ideas. I would not want to be in the blimp when forces on ground start shooting back. These are great photo's. Would love to own one of the BARs. Thanks for posting ! US Navy lighter-than-air "Blimps" served throughout WW2 on antisubmarine patrols along the US coast and I would assume that they were armed. They were not used offensively against ground forces as you imply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFMike Posted February 15, 2015 Share #22 Posted February 15, 2015 I believe some of those blimps were armed and at least one may have killed a U boat with bombs or depth charges. Bunch of old BARS we got back from CIDG in trade for new M60s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted February 15, 2015 Share #23 Posted February 15, 2015 Fixed it for you. It was flipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infantry Grunt Posted February 28, 2015 Share #24 Posted February 28, 2015 Imagine how much money that stack of BAR's and M1's would be worth today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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