phantomfixer Posted January 1, 2015 Share #1 Posted January 1, 2015 I bought this off a local businessman, who took the gun in trade back in the late 60's for a tank of oil...He fired a few rounds with his son, and put it in the closet until a few years ago, when he sold it to me.... Made by Standard Products, has an Inland 44 dated barrel...I have read Inland supplied barrels to other carbine manucfacturers...true? Is this a factory untouched, other than the Korean War mod? Any info would be great! Where can I post pics of a 1933 banner mauser on this site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfixer Posted January 1, 2015 Author Share #2 Posted January 1, 2015 more pics... I can make out "StXXXXX" under the rear sight which should be Standard Products? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfixer Posted January 1, 2015 Author Share #3 Posted January 1, 2015 the rear sight...the mag release has M stamped on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundance Posted January 1, 2015 Share #4 Posted January 1, 2015 Back in the '60s I'd guess these could be picked up very reasonably and I imagine the cost of a tank of oil was a drop in the bucket compared to today. I remember as a youngster (also in the '60s ) in the sporting goods dept of a good size department store seeing a wood box with probably 15 or 20 carbines in it for sale. I was to young to buy one but I remember it being really neat to see real army rifles close up. I have no recollection of the price. Your Standard Products carbine is a beauty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Keith Posted January 1, 2015 Share #5 Posted January 1, 2015 Great Find! I'm no expert, but it's a great looking carbine. The books by Larry Ruth, (War Baby! and War Baby! Comes Home) will answer your questions. Thanks for showing it. BKW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt Detective Posted January 1, 2015 Share #6 Posted January 1, 2015 Great lookin Standard products. Yes Inland did provide barrels for Standard Products..In 1944 the S P carbine was made with the adjustable sight, this looks like a stamped sight marked for Inland. I think SP should have the H in a shield mark on the side of the sight..but with carbines and all the sub contractors nothing is 100%.. LOL Nice rifle, congrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundance Posted January 1, 2015 Share #7 Posted January 1, 2015 As to your questions, I believe all carbines were made in '45 or earlier so I don't think you could call it "factory untouched". Standard Products contracts may have ended even earlier. Sights, bayo lug, safety etc may have been added in a rebuild. Others more knowledgeable than me will probably chime in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted January 1, 2015 Share #8 Posted January 1, 2015 Thats a great carbine.What a closet beauty. Having them factory or book or collector"correct" is nice but to me yours is correct as is.This is how it ended it service life and has set in its configuration.I wouldnt change a thing. Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronald Posted January 1, 2015 Share #9 Posted January 1, 2015 Here is WW2 Standard Products w/high wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLeo Posted January 1, 2015 Share #10 Posted January 1, 2015 Very nice carbine, but not an factory original. the carbines went through post was refurbishment to add the bayonet lugs and adjustable sights or any worn out internal parts. Although a couple did use a adjustable sight late in the war(Inland and Winchester I believe) But, it probably hasn't been messed with since the rebuild unless the previous owners changed out some of the internal parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragbag Posted January 1, 2015 Share #11 Posted January 1, 2015 Very nice piece! Take care of it but take it out and shoot it, great little rifles for target sporting. I own two of them. Thanks for the story-Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfixer Posted January 1, 2015 Author Share #12 Posted January 1, 2015 Thanks guys! I do shoot it at an indoor range which is kinda lame...but the only legal spot around Dover to shoot.....it came with three 15 rnd magazines and one 30 rnd. Fun gun to shoot and it is a keeper! very nice stock Ronald and dig the WWII configuration Sorry for the loss of Molly ...Leo...... I just lost my best friend too....followed me everywhere sat beside me, went everywhere he could with me....a pointer mix named Shilo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VarkDriver Posted January 1, 2015 Share #13 Posted January 1, 2015 Nice Carbine. I've got one and they are handy weapons. Once you shoot one you understand why these weapons that were designed for support troops found their way to the front lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfixer Posted January 2, 2015 Author Share #14 Posted January 2, 2015 I prefer to shoot this over the Garand...less expensive and a tad more fun to shoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted January 2, 2015 Share #15 Posted January 2, 2015 You do know the manufacture of the carbine is stamped in front of the serial number under the rear sight on the receiver heel? I saw the pic you posted of the recoil plate that was stamped Standard Products and wondered if you thought that was where manufacture of the carbine was stamped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfixer Posted January 3, 2015 Author Share #16 Posted January 3, 2015 Yep...but with the adjustable sight mod I can't read the full stamping, just STXXXXX...looking at the pics online the only manufacturer to use a stamping with StXXXX was Standard Products...Saginaw is the only other manufacturer I saw with an S but it is stamped SAxxx not STxxx And I didn't want to move the rear sight out of the dovetail.... what threw me was the barrel and was hoping that the barrel was original to the weapon being an Inland barrel, basically wanting to confirm that Inland was a barrel supplier to other carbine manufacturers.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted January 3, 2015 Share #17 Posted January 3, 2015 OK, I wasnt sure you were aware. You should still be able to see the manufacture under the sight if you hold it just right up to the light No way of knowing if that barrel is original to the receiver but Standard P did use some Inland barrels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt Detective Posted January 5, 2015 Share #18 Posted January 5, 2015 Hi Phantomfixer, What is the serial number. I would bet money the barrel is original to the gun and a 44 date this would be correct to have the later rear sight thats on it...not the early peep sight. A serial number should confirm this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronald Posted January 5, 2015 Share #19 Posted January 5, 2015 My Standard Products has a 3-43 Underwood Barrel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt Detective Posted January 5, 2015 Share #20 Posted January 5, 2015 My Standard Products has a 3-43 Underwood Barrel Hi Ronald, Love the flaming ball on underwood barrels. Standard products didnt make barrels so you will see them with: Inland, Underwood, Buffalo Arms, Marlin, Winchester or IBM Rgds, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronald Posted January 8, 2015 Share #21 Posted January 8, 2015 Thanks. I have it and a couple of other items listed for sale locally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfixer Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share #22 Posted January 9, 2015 Dirt... the SN is....210443x thanks for the help!!! John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt Detective Posted January 9, 2015 Share #23 Posted January 9, 2015 Hi John, Here is the info I have for standard Products. #2,100,000 - #2,220,000 Sept.1943 to Jan 1944 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfixer Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share #24 Posted January 9, 2015 Hey Mike...Thanks for the info!!! much appreciated JZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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