Sully Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I recently acquired this this uniform jacket and I'm unsure of it. I don't have a name, only a laundry number: G6661. I tried researching by that and got 47 possible names. Is there a way to search online the recipients of the DSC? Also I don't think the ribbon bar is original to the jacket. The 5th AF was in the Pacific but this has a European Campaign Ribbon with one campaign star. Could anyone help me here? Always looking for WW1 28th Division; anything, papers, field gear, uniforms, etc. Link to post Share on other sites
Sully Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 Close up of ribbon bar and patch. Always looking for WW1 28th Division; anything, papers, field gear, uniforms, etc. Link to post Share on other sites
mattsmilitary Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Never seen a DCF on a air corps uniform Two ideas i have 1. maybe he was in the army first then transferred to the air corps 2. ribbon bar is not original to jacket. I would think if he got a DCF he would of got a BS too. Also I thought the 5th aaf was in the pacific Matt's Military milimportexport2@gmail.com Link to post Share on other sites
Garandomatic Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Definitely. I think it is a website called "Home of Heroes" or something like that. Looking for the following: 452nd and 447th Bomb Group items Anything 12th Armored- especially uniforms 155th Assault Helicopter Company, Camp Coryell, or Ban Me Thuot Vietnam items[/center]WWII US Navy Uniforms from the Battle Off Samar: USS Johnston DD-557, USS Hoel DD-553, USS Samuel B. Roberts DE-413, USS Heermann DD-532, USS Dennis DE-405, USS John C. Butler DE-339, USS Raymond DE-341, USS Fanshaw Bay St. Lo, White Plains, Kalinin Bay, Kitkun Bay and Gambier Bay... Link to post Share on other sites
Garandomatic Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Totally missed that ETO ribbon. MAAAAAAJOR red flag there... 5th AF was ALL Pacific, unless he was 8th first, then did a tour there, kind of like Paul Tibbets. He has the Hershey Bars on his sleeve for that to be possible, but I wouldn't say it is very likely. Who knows, you may be in luck! Looking for the following: 452nd and 447th Bomb Group items Anything 12th Armored- especially uniforms 155th Assault Helicopter Company, Camp Coryell, or Ban Me Thuot Vietnam items[/center]WWII US Navy Uniforms from the Battle Off Samar: USS Johnston DD-557, USS Hoel DD-553, USS Samuel B. Roberts DE-413, USS Heermann DD-532, USS Dennis DE-405, USS John C. Butler DE-339, USS Raymond DE-341, USS Fanshaw Bay St. Lo, White Plains, Kalinin Bay, Kitkun Bay and Gambier Bay... Link to post Share on other sites
Sully Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 The European Campaign Ribbon is what made me question this jacket immediately. The 5th AF was in the Philippines in 1941 then moved to Australia, never to Europe. This guy does have three years worth of overseas stripes, so he could have possibly moved from the European theater to the Pacific but then why doesn't he have a Asia Pacific Campaign Ribbon? I have 47 names to sort through to see if any of them received the DSC. Always looking for WW1 28th Division; anything, papers, field gear, uniforms, etc. Link to post Share on other sites
Garandomatic Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 There is the slight possibility that the PTO ribbon is just missing. Like I said, slight chance, but suppose his ribbons were slightly out of order and he is without the bottom three. A bar with a PTO, American campaign, and American Defense wouldn't be too out of line under that, but if he got a DSC in the USAAF, you'd expect to see an Air Medal and a DFC as well. Guys that were on the ground typically stayed put for the duration, too. Regardless, it won't cost a dime to do the homework, and for what it would do for its historical and monetary value, your odds are at least better than a lottery ticket! Looking for the following: 452nd and 447th Bomb Group items Anything 12th Armored- especially uniforms 155th Assault Helicopter Company, Camp Coryell, or Ban Me Thuot Vietnam items[/center]WWII US Navy Uniforms from the Battle Off Samar: USS Johnston DD-557, USS Hoel DD-553, USS Samuel B. Roberts DE-413, USS Heermann DD-532, USS Dennis DE-405, USS John C. Butler DE-339, USS Raymond DE-341, USS Fanshaw Bay St. Lo, White Plains, Kalinin Bay, Kitkun Bay and Gambier Bay... Link to post Share on other sites
Sully Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 In the lotto theme, I've got 47 tickets and there were 5059 recipients. Time to search. Always looking for WW1 28th Division; anything, papers, field gear, uniforms, etc. Link to post Share on other sites
Garandomatic Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Here's a link or two that might help: http://homeofheroes.com/distinguishedservicecross/index.html http://valor.defense.gov/Recipients/ArmyDistinguishedServiceCrossRecipients.aspx Looking for the following: 452nd and 447th Bomb Group items Anything 12th Armored- especially uniforms 155th Assault Helicopter Company, Camp Coryell, or Ban Me Thuot Vietnam items[/center]WWII US Navy Uniforms from the Battle Off Samar: USS Johnston DD-557, USS Hoel DD-553, USS Samuel B. Roberts DE-413, USS Heermann DD-532, USS Dennis DE-405, USS John C. Butler DE-339, USS Raymond DE-341, USS Fanshaw Bay St. Lo, White Plains, Kalinin Bay, Kitkun Bay and Gambier Bay... Link to post Share on other sites
CNY Militaria Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 1. USAAF personnel can and did receive DSC's. 2. I would bet that this ribbon bar has no legitimate business on this uniform. For the ETO and lack of PTO ribbon, but mostly-- look at the discoloration on the DSC ribbon and the brightness on the other two. Not to mention, DSC, followed by a GCM? The lack of even an Air medal is questionable. The EAME ribbon is also backwards, not a huge red flag, but when added to the others.... I think you have a nice plain 5th AAF jacket with an added ribbon bar. Scrolling through all of the DSC recipients would probably be a waste of time. Ebay Sales: wwii.uniform.collector Auctioneer Website: http://www.cnymilitaria.com Facebook Sales Group Link to post Share on other sites
Sully Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 1. USAAF personnel can and did receive DSC's. 2. I would bet that this ribbon bar has no legitimate business on this uniform. For the ETO and lack of PTO ribbon, but mostly-- look at the discoloration on the DSC ribbon and the brightness on the other two. Not to mention, DSC, followed by a GCM? The lack of even an Air medal is questionable. The EAME ribbon is also backwards, not a huge red flag, but when added to the others.... I think you have a nice plain 5th AAF jacket with an added ribbon bar. Scrolling through all of the DSC recipients would probably be a waste of time. To late I already did scan through the whole list. The closest I got was a Green, Robert L., U.S. Army - North Russia Intervention. Going by the laundry number I found a Green, Robert L Jr. Did the son grab his dad's award? I didn't think the awards were original to the jacket in the first place. Always looking for WW1 28th Division; anything, papers, field gear, uniforms, etc. Link to post Share on other sites
AAF_Collection Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Is the coat the earlier, fully lined pattern? does it have belt hooks (or at least holes for them)?. I agree with CNY, the ribbon bar is an addition to an otherwise legit coat. Matt. Collecting WWII and pre-war Air Corps items-Unit Histories,Uniforms,Medals and Groupings. *Seeking Pre-WWII Air Corps Officers and Enlisted Dress Uniform items!* Link to post Share on other sites
Sully Posted December 31, 2014 Author Share Posted December 31, 2014 Is the coat the earlier, fully lined pattern? does it have belt hooks (or at least holes for them)?. I agree with CNY, the ribbon bar is an addition to an otherwise legit coat. Matt. It does have a full liner and brass belt hooks. I found the quartermaster's tag and it is dated July 23, 1938. It is a very nice prewar four pocket. I removed the bar and it looks like it was on there for a very long time, but no way it is legitimate. Always looking for WW1 28th Division; anything, papers, field gear, uniforms, etc. Link to post Share on other sites
AAF_Collection Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I hope you don't mind, but I took the liberty of running the number through the enlistment records database. Of the 47 matches I would suggest discounting those who enlisted after mid summer 42, but also consider that post war enlistments could be the guy if he extended or entered the reserves. Interesting that he has bars for three years overseas, but no service stripe, and no ruptured duck. Matt. Collecting WWII and pre-war Air Corps items-Unit Histories,Uniforms,Medals and Groupings. *Seeking Pre-WWII Air Corps Officers and Enlisted Dress Uniform items!* Link to post Share on other sites
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