WWII_GI Posted December 15, 2014 Share #1 Posted December 15, 2014 I picked this one up recently and I am unsure about the cover, I have never seen a BOYT marked cover and I just wanted a few other opinions on it. Also is this one of the alleged USMC reinforced T-handle shovel? All opinions welcome. Thanks -Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mattsmilitary Posted December 15, 2014 Share #4 Posted December 15, 2014 Cover looks right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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doyler Posted December 16, 2014 Share #7 Posted December 16, 2014 Not sure Boyt like that marked them like that on the inside..Typically covers were back stamped.THERE ARE A LOT OF FAKE STAMPS OUT THERE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWII_GI Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share #8 Posted December 16, 2014 Not sure Boyt like that marked them like that on the inside..Typically covers were back stamped.THERE ARE A LOT OF FAKE STAMPS OUT THERE. Yeah I was unsure about that, it looks like an original stamp but it's just a weird spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted December 16, 2014 Share #9 Posted December 16, 2014 Looks odd to me like there is ink residue off to the left of the USMC like it was stamped with a hand stamp made out of a rubber block like address stamps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROBS Posted December 16, 2014 Share #10 Posted December 16, 2014 Rust staining looks fake applied to me to a repro cover... I'm no expert but that's my take on it. -Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWII_GI Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share #11 Posted December 16, 2014 Heres some pics of the inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyCanteen Posted December 16, 2014 Share #12 Posted December 16, 2014 The shovel looks like a nice 1943 dated Ames, which are not common by any means. As for the cover? I have to concur with the comments above. I'm not particularly comfortable with certain things. It seems that the rust did not affect the thread, for what it is worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_hinch Posted December 16, 2014 Share #13 Posted December 16, 2014 Were these covers ever marked "USMC"? My understanding is that the USMC covers just lacked the "U.S." stamp on the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted December 16, 2014 Share #14 Posted December 16, 2014 The shovel looks like a nice 1943 dated Ames, which are not common by any means. As for the cover? I have to concur with the comments above. I'm not particularly comfortable with certain things. It seems that the rust did not affect the thread, for what it is worth. Plus the thread looks white.not the typical green/khaki seen by Boyt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyCanteen Posted December 16, 2014 Share #15 Posted December 16, 2014 Plus the thread looks white.not the typical green/khaki seen by Boyt Exactly. I would black-light it just to see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted December 16, 2014 Share #16 Posted December 16, 2014 The USMC stamp looks real but I think it started life on a real piece of equipment. Like a message case that was all fouled up so it ended up here as a t cover......a fake t cover. Ronnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWII_GI Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share #17 Posted December 16, 2014 Oh darn, I kinda thought it just looked off. Oh well, I didnt lose too much money, the shovel is still nice and I'll probably just keep this cover as a filler till I get a real one. Wasn't a total loss. Thanks all for the help -steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Flage Guy Posted December 16, 2014 Share #18 Posted December 16, 2014 As far as I know, the Corps-specific Covers of various types were made at the Quartermaster Depot and stamped on the undersides, if they were stamped at all. Here are some pre-War Canteen Covers shown along with a Shovel Cover... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1a2u2 Posted October 16, 2017 Share #19 Posted October 16, 2017 Does anyone know if BOYT made shovel covers for the Marines? I think I have a cover just like this at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1987 Posted October 17, 2017 Share #20 Posted October 17, 2017 Does anyone know if BOYT made shovel covers for the Marines? I think I have a cover just like this at home. Hi, I am yet to see an original BOYT 'USMC' marked shovel cover. If you need one for a display I would suggest you use a standard US marked example or if you're willing to spend more money and time searching a USMC Philadelphia Depot made example would be best for early war impressions. There's a lot of fakes out there now so you will need to do your research. Regards, -Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIJive Posted October 24, 2017 Share #21 Posted October 24, 2017 Pretty sure it is a fake robber stamp. Besides, I am also fairly certain that a 1942 made shovel cover would likely have square metal end caps on the strap. Anyone know if Boyt used the rounded tips on early Army contracts, if they even made shovel covers in 1942. I have seen Boyt shovel covers but dont know about 1942 dates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIJive Posted October 25, 2017 Share #22 Posted October 25, 2017 After looking at some other Boyt equipment dated 1942, it appears they used the rounded metal tips on the straps of their other web gear, so I guess the rounded metal tips could be okay for a 1942 dated item. I still don't like the stamp, though. Never saw a Boyt stamp on a shovel cover that looks like that. Maybe it was just the Depot made items that utilized the square metal strap tips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1a2u2 Posted December 8, 2018 Share #23 Posted December 8, 2018 Oh darn, I kinda thought it just looked off. Oh well, I didnt lose too much money, the shovel is still nice and I'll probably just keep this cover as a filler till I get a real one. Wasn't a total loss. Thanks all for the help -steven Steven, Did you sell this cover to someone? Because I purchased from a dealer last year... and it's the same exact one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWII_GI Posted December 8, 2018 Author Share #24 Posted December 8, 2018 Steven, Did you sell this cover to someone? Because I purchased from a dealer last year... and it's the same exact one... I had originally bought it off of eBay and after I got the no go from the forum I returned it. He mustve sold it again. -Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1a2u2 Posted December 8, 2018 Share #25 Posted December 8, 2018 I had originally bought it off of eBay and after I got the no go from the forum I returned it. He mustve sold it again. -Steven Do you remember who it was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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