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I've spent the last few days appraising non-military things for an upcoming estate sale for a guy who was in Special Forces in Vietnam (he's still alive - this is a downsizing and moving sale).

 

He no longer lives in the house, but has come by a couple times and we chatted about his Army days and his 38 years in law enforcement after that. He has his Purple Heart, Bronze Star and a couple of other artifacts from his service, but said that was about it.

 

As I was leaving the house tonight, I came across this in a stack of items to be sold. The estate sale operator gave it to me, but I'm a bit unsure about these, were they something worn stateside in a training school?

 

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It's a MACV Recondo School pocket patch. Awarded to Recondo School graduates. The School was run by 5th Group in Nha Trang from about Sept '66-Dec '70--or somewhere close to those dates.

 

Worn in-country but not authorized stateside, as far as I know.

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My YouTube patch channel:

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WANTED:

WWII:

551st PIB pocket and shoulder patches

504th PIR real deal pocket patch 

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Not having much left I'm sure he will be exited to get it.

 

No, he doesn't care: he's got the medals and that's all he cares about. He's even getting rid of some cool badges from his four decades in law enforcement.


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As long as the guy wasn't in the 1st Brigade of the 9th..... I'll believe the Recondo School. No argument.

 

At first we thought it was related to RE/MAX, the real estate company, with RE/CONDO being their branch that specializes in condos, but then we realized olive drab was not a good color for real estate agents - subdued they are not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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As others have stated prior, Recondo School was established by Westmoreland in 1966. It was staffed by 5 officers and 41 enlisted Special Forces. The school focused on the training of Free World Military Forces in the techniques of Long Range Reconnaissance. Therefore, any unit stationed in Vietnam could send soldiers it deemed worthy to the Recondo school. However, the course itself was not easy. In Stanton's Vietnam Order of Battle book he gives the statistics of how many attempted the course and how many finished. In the period of May -July 1968 354 soldiers started Recondo school, by the end of the 286.5 hours of the course only 197 had graduated.

 

It has been said by those LRRPs who went that Recondo was "the greatest school" and "trained you for everything you needed to know".

 

Sources:

-5th Special Forces Group, Operational Reports for Period Ending July 31st. National Archives and Records Administration. College Park, Md. Record Group 472: Records of the U.S. Forces in Southeast Asia, 1950-1976.

-Stanton, Shelby. Vietnam Order of Battle. Mechanicsburg: Stackpole Book, 2003.

-The History Channel. Secrets of the Vietnam War: Long Range Reconnaissance Patrol, DVD. Directed by David Callip. North Hills, CA: Brentwood Communications International Inc., 2001.

"Remember Bataan, Never Forget"

Actively looking for U.S. Army Run/Swim/Walk For Your Life patches.

 

Treasurer, ASMIC

Area V VP, ASMIC

www.asmic.org


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As others have stated prior, Recondo School was established by Westmoreland in 1966. It was staffed by 5 officers and 41 enlisted Special Forces. The school focused on the training of Free World Military Forces in the techniques of Long Range Reconnaissance.

 

This guy did LRRP with 5th SFG. He later spent 38 years as a law enforcement officer for a federal agency that worked in a vast wilderness area adjacent to Los Angeles: it was a popular area for the LA gangs to dump bodies, practice with their weapons, set up bobby-trapped pot farms, etc. His RECONDO training came in handy then too.


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I have a L Co jacket to a Ranger in the 101st.There is a black and red MACV RECONDO patch on the pocket.There were others who attended the school as well.

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Forget about the tips..We'll get hell to pay (AC/DC)
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The Recondo School is one of my favorite subjects to study. As Doyler said, if you look at lists of graduates, you'll find Marines, SEALs, and PJ's plus Thais, Koreans, Filipinos and Aussies. Some FWMAF countries had instructors at the school as well.

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Member:

ASMIC

OVMS

Primary interests:

The United States Army in WWII

The United States Army in Vietnam
 

My YouTube patch channel:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxXvNiUvwbB-e4i0gl-RrFA

 

WANTED:

WWII:

551st PIB pocket and shoulder patches

504th PIR real deal pocket patch 

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Here are some I just picked up.Sellers' pics,I will post some better scans when they arrive.

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High Flight

Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth

And danced the skies on laughter-silver wings;

Sunward I've climbed and joined the tumbling mirth

Of sun-split clouds - and done a hundred things

You have not dreamed of - wheeled and soared and swung

High in the sunlit silence. Hovering there

I've chased the shouting wind along and flung

My eager craft through footless halls of air.

Up, up the long delirious, burning blue

I've topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace,

where never lark, or even eagle flew;

and while, with silent, lifting mind I've trod

The high untrespassed sanctity of space,

Put out my hand, and touched the face of God.

 

John Gillespie Magee, Jr.

June 9, 1922 – December 11, 1941

 

 

 

" And each man stands with his face in the light of his own drawn sword. Ready to do what a hero can." - Elizabeth Barrett Browning

 

 

Don't let the B@stards wear you down -"Vinegar" Joe Stillwell

 

 

Reasonable people adapt themselves to the world.Unreasonable

people attempt to adapt the world to themselves.All progress,

therefore, depends on unreasonable people.

George Bernard Shaw

 

 

" Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining" , Fletcher,from the movie "The outlaw Josey Wales"

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My little display:

 

 

 

 

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Member:

ASMIC

OVMS

Primary interests:

The United States Army in WWII

The United States Army in Vietnam
 

My YouTube patch channel:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxXvNiUvwbB-e4i0gl-RrFA

 

WANTED:

WWII:

551st PIB pocket and shoulder patches

504th PIR real deal pocket patch 

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Here is a link to an older thread I started that shows some more Recondo variations:

 

http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/121281-my-little-recondo-patch-collection/?hl=%20recondo%20%20patches

High Flight

Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth

And danced the skies on laughter-silver wings;

Sunward I've climbed and joined the tumbling mirth

Of sun-split clouds - and done a hundred things

You have not dreamed of - wheeled and soared and swung

High in the sunlit silence. Hovering there

I've chased the shouting wind along and flung

My eager craft through footless halls of air.

Up, up the long delirious, burning blue

I've topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace,

where never lark, or even eagle flew;

and while, with silent, lifting mind I've trod

The high untrespassed sanctity of space,

Put out my hand, and touched the face of God.

 

John Gillespie Magee, Jr.

June 9, 1922 – December 11, 1941

 

 

 

" And each man stands with his face in the light of his own drawn sword. Ready to do what a hero can." - Elizabeth Barrett Browning

 

 

Don't let the B@stards wear you down -"Vinegar" Joe Stillwell

 

 

Reasonable people adapt themselves to the world.Unreasonable

people attempt to adapt the world to themselves.All progress,

therefore, depends on unreasonable people.

George Bernard Shaw

 

 

" Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining" , Fletcher,from the movie "The outlaw Josey Wales"

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