irish Posted July 20, 2014 Author Share #26 Posted July 20, 2014 Kurt, thank you for that information. I just noticed that I had incorrectly spelled Bilibid in my original post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katieony Posted July 20, 2014 Share #27 Posted July 20, 2014 A very historic and poignant group...thank you for sharing! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriscoHare Posted July 20, 2014 Share #28 Posted July 20, 2014 Speechless. The history is just amazing. Thanks for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wharfmaster Posted July 20, 2014 Share #29 Posted July 20, 2014 Nice to se a survivor group, thanks. W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argonauts2 Posted July 20, 2014 Share #30 Posted July 20, 2014 Great survivor group and thanks for sharing. True Heros. After reading all the material, it leaves me with two thoughts, what did Jack go on to do with the rest of his life?And is there any additional information out there in the officers and crew who sailed to Australia as that wou"d be a fascinating story to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted July 20, 2014 Author Share #31 Posted July 20, 2014 Thanks again to everyone who has looked in. To answer the question posted above, Jack Bishop left the Navy in approx 1950. He would then rejoin the Navy and serve until the early 1960's. I do not know what happened to the 18 USS Quail crew members who escaped to Australia. I assume they were re-assigned to other ships and went on to fight out the remainder of the war. It would be interesting to know if all survived the war. In one of my original posts (#4) of this thread I had shown a map of Corregidor in which Jack Bishop indicated where he was captured at 10:00. He also noted on the map where Lt. Otter was killed, in addition he noted on the reverse that both Lt. Otter and Ens. Lloyd were killed about 7:30. The date would have been May 6th 1942, unsure if the times shown are AM or PM. Both positions are on either side of the North Shore Road as indicated by the map. I did not know if they were part of a fighting group or their proximity to one another was coincidence. I had long assumed that they were all members of the USS Quail. I looked on line for any information regarding these two Navy Officers Lt. Otter and Ensign Lloyd and what I found was quite interesting. Lt Otter was Lt. Bethel Veech Otter a 1937 graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy. He was also a fellow Kentuckian with Jack Bishop, Lt Otter being from Louisville. He served as a Fire Control officer on the Sub-Tender USS Canopus which had been operating in the waters near Bataan and Corregidor. Lt Otter is listed as being KIA on Corregidor May 6, 1942. He had been awarded the Silver Star earlier in the fighting, and would be awarded Posthumously the Navy Cross for extraordinary heroism while fighting on Corregidor May 5 and 6 1942. The Navy would go on to name a Destroyer Escort in 1943 DE 210 USS Otter in his memory, Lt Otters' mother would christen the ship. I want to now assume that Y3c Jack Bishop and Lt. Otter two Kentuckians had fought together until the end, one being killed and one captured. Ensign Lloyd was Ensign William R. Lloyd and is listed as a crew member of the USS Oahu. Ensign Lloyd is carried as KIA 6 May 1942. However in the reference I had seen he listed as KIA while serving aboard the USS Oahu which was sunk off of Corregidor on May 6, 1942. This would conflict with the map I had shown that was in Jack Bishops' possession, which indicates he was on the island of Corregidor at that time. The situation in and around Corregidor on those last days was likely quite fluid and his final position may have been in question. The USS Oahu being his last official duty station. He may have survived the sinking and made it to the island only to die later in the fighting. Ensign Lloyd would also have a Destroyer Escort DE 209 USS Loyd named after him in1943. Lloyds' mother christening the ship. Ensign Lloyd was also Posthumously awarded the Navy Cross for this action. Were all 3 individuals part of a larger defensive fighting group of Navy men on the island? A very heroic chapter in Navy history, when their ships were no longer able to fight they continued to fight on land and in the end would give their lives. This warrants further research., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobgee Posted July 20, 2014 Share #32 Posted July 20, 2014 Wonderful first-hand POW material. Theses heroes of the Philippines had a very tough time. He was fortunate to have survived. Bobgee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argonauts2 Posted July 20, 2014 Share #33 Posted July 20, 2014 Thank you Irish. Their memories, deeds and sacrifices live on today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted July 20, 2014 Author Share #34 Posted July 20, 2014 I would like to correct a date from my post above. The USS Oahu was sunk on 5 May 1942. So it is plausible Ensign Lloyd had made it on to Corregidor by May 6th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KASTAUFFER Posted March 22, 2015 Share #35 Posted March 22, 2015 BTT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 22, 2015 Share #36 Posted March 22, 2015 I believe Andrew Lipps had Otter's PH and NC group. I was too late...this was one I would have robbed my 401K to own... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wharfmaster Posted March 22, 2015 Share #37 Posted March 22, 2015 USS Quail cover. W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenchbuff Posted March 22, 2015 Share #38 Posted March 22, 2015 Some amazing items! and from a survivor no less! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFP54 Posted September 14, 2016 Share #39 Posted September 14, 2016 Great POW grouping . . . especially the letter. Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaA257 Posted September 14, 2016 Share #40 Posted September 14, 2016 Damn, what an outstanding grouping!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUV Posted January 15, 2017 Share #41 Posted January 15, 2017 Awesome grouping to a true American hero. Thanks for sharing it with us!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KASTAUFFER Posted May 17, 2019 Share #42 Posted May 17, 2019 Back up in remembrance of the Fall of Corregidor , May 6, 1942. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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