tidballman Posted July 13, 2014 Share #1 Posted July 13, 2014 Hello all! Hope you can help me. I got this small enamel crest pin in with a grouping of 1950-60s military pins, medals and patches. All from the same family but belonging to 3 different servicemen within the family. This little pin measures 16mm tall and believe it or not, is double clutch back. Vitreous enamel laid into a gold wash metal. The scroll beneath the crest has a motto which reads: "ET TAMEN SE MO VET" The roman numbers at the top of the shield reads: XXIII-VI-MCMLVIII" ( 23-6-1958) The reverse has a raised maker's mark of: RUSSELL UNIFORM CO. NEW-YORK. N.Y. I thought it would be a simple ID by looking up the motto but that has been a dead end. Can anyone help? Is it military? Fraternal? College? I appreciate your help in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1ashooter Posted July 13, 2014 Share #2 Posted July 13, 2014 Looks West Point related maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan H. Posted July 14, 2014 Share #3 Posted July 14, 2014 The motto is Latin and translates "And Yet It Moves." The motto does not match any of the army units on the Institute of Heraldry website. I would say that this is probably a crest for a military school (probably a prep school) which was most likely founded on June 23, 1958. I couldn't find anything in my searches. I hope that you have better luck. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidballman Posted July 14, 2014 Author Share #4 Posted July 14, 2014 The motto is Latin and translates "And Yet It Moves." The motto does not match any of the army units on the Institute of Heraldry website. I would say that this is probably a crest for a military school (probably a prep school) which was most likely founded on June 23, 1958. I couldn't find anything in my searches. I hope that you have better luck. Allan Thanks Alan....I have been that route too but will try to head that way since I too could not find the motto being used by any US military units. I appreciate your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkGreen Posted July 14, 2014 Share #5 Posted July 14, 2014 I, too, have done some extensive research on this badge. In the area of the date, I learned two related items. 1. That was the date segregation was ordered to be abolished in the Little Rock, Arkansas school system. And, 2. That was the date Martin Luther King, Jr. met with President Eisenhower to discuss racial equality. It is my guess, the school may be in a region effected significantly by either of these actions. However, I have had no luck at looking at military prep schools and ROTC programs in Arkansas, Louisiana and parts of Alabama. Best of luck on this one. I will keep it in mind as I do my other reserch. Marko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidballman Posted July 14, 2014 Author Share #6 Posted July 14, 2014 I, too, have done some extensive research on this badge. In the area of the date, I learned two related items. 1. That was the date segregation was ordered to be abolished in the Little Rock, Arkansas school system. And, 2. That was the date Martin Luther King, Jr. met with President Eisenhower to discuss racial equality. It is my guess, the school may be in a region effected significantly by either of these actions. However, I have had no luck at looking at military prep schools and ROTC programs in Arkansas, Louisiana and parts of Alabama. Best of luck on this one. I will keep it in mind as I do my other reserch. Marko Hi Mark, I also made note of those dates when I was first researching this pin.....but could not "connect the dots" as they say. What strikes me is the double clutch pins on such a small pin....and made by a uniform company...and it seems the Latin version of that motto is seldom used if ever. I found Italian language use of the motto but nothing in Latin. I usually pride myself on my research abilities but this one has me stumped. I do appreciate your efforts. Tidball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidballman Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share #7 Posted July 31, 2014 I'm still trying to ID this little pin and coming up empty. I hope you all do not mind a bump up for the month of August tomorrow. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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