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Picked this up at a co-op, I am not a sub expert so I am trying to find out more about this. Marked sterling on reverse, appears to be named to a E.S. seiselman/geiselman has to distinguish whether it is an "s" or a "g". But what I find weird that it is also marked 602-10-12. I have no clue why a badge like this would be engraved, if someone could help with research that would be great. If anyone has an idea what this is worth please give me a clue looking to sell this but I know nothing about it or what it is worth thanks

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Seems odd for a soldier to have this done I have never seen one like it, I couldn't really find anything out about the man from the number or name

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All I could find was that he was in ww2 his full name is Ezra S. Geiselman, Jr.

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Thanks really neat I could not find anything else about him, I did a little research on the ship the S-13, but have had no success on research if he earned any medals or awards

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Really appreciate it I find it bazaar that this GI would have his name engraved not impossible but not likely do you have an idea of what this badge is worth

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Really appreciate it I find it bazaar that this GI would have his name engraved not impossible but not likely do you have an idea of what this badge is worth

. Not so much. It was really quite common. These were awards, something earned and to be proud of. I have seen this off and on throughout my time in the Navy and earlier. When my father was in, he worked with a former submariner from WW 2 who had his original Combat Patrol Badge and it was engraved. He said the ship awarded them to the crew so they were marked with each mans name. Badges used today are not solid, so we could not do that. There was one guy I remember on a tender in the late 70s who would cast ESWS badges and name them.
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Thanks for info, I am not a huge navy collector so I would not really know, but I am sure I would be proud if I had been awarded a badge like this thanks for your input

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Hello anyone have an idea what this badge is worth thanks

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There are a couple for sale right now on eBay for the $200+ range - but not selling. Some of the other guys would be far better to answer the question, but that would be a rough estimate, especially being with an IDed piece.

 

Just my opinion.

 

Dave

 

P.S. Can you please do me a favor and not call him a "soldier"? He would be a Sailor or submariner...but since he was not in the Army, he was not a soldier or "GI"...

Only a weak society needs government protection or intervention before it pursues its resolve to preserve the truth. Truth needs neither handcuffs nor a badge for its vindication. -Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy

Peace is not the absence of war, but the defense of hard-won freedom. -Anton LaGuardia


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Thanks for the info was just offer 35 dollars through the forum and felt insulted I understand that personalized items are often hard to price thanks for your info on this piece

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Far more than 35. I have a grouping with the same pin and mine is also named. The engraving is so similar it's uncanny. Maybe done by the same hand.

-Specializing in WWII (and earlier) Submarine material. Enthusiast of history and artifacts from all service branches.

 

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A nice example, with very nice period hand-engraving. $35 is pretty insulting. I would have thought $100-150 because of the engraving. The $200+ ones on eBay will CONTINUE to sit there for years!

 

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Mike

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Thanks for your thoughts really appreciate it

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Engraved submarine combat badges are rare. Even more so when they were done by a jeweler, which this one seems to be be. It makes me wonder about the circumstances behind this engraving. My initial thought was that this badge was part of a larger group formally awarded to the crew of the Charr after an especially meritorious mission. In researching Charr's history I found that the recipient( a plankowner) was aboard when the submarine escorted a badly damaged Dutch submarine back to Australia. I'm speculating of course but it wouldn't surprise me if the Dutch crew had these pins engraved and presented them in thanks to the crew of Charr. The Fremantle connection to the subs is interesting, as a large number of USN submarine items from Perth are beautifully engraved, either by a local jeweler or a skilled person aboard a tender.

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