dustin Posted May 28, 2014 Share #51 Posted May 28, 2014 Alright I will retract my initial defense of the show....bash away! extremely disappointed here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfairclo Posted May 28, 2014 Share #52 Posted May 28, 2014 Although many of the concrete facts are there, I just think it is poorly executed. The acting is bad, the details are not there, and many important things are being left out... such as the Atlantic blockade of Germany in WWI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellfish41 Posted May 28, 2014 Share #53 Posted May 28, 2014 I agree that the miniseries should at least be worthwhile to pique the interest of people to read about the events of WWI and WWII who weren't previously interested. I would rather younger people learn a little watching The World Wars than that garbage on MTV. That being said, hopefully they don't jack up D-Day in HD too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Baker Posted May 28, 2014 Share #54 Posted May 28, 2014 I found this on wikipedia. "Although disputed, Adolf Hitler and Tandey allegedly encountered each other after the battle at Marcoing. The story is set in October 1914, while Tandey was serving with the Green Howard's Regiment, and relates that a weary German soldier wandered into Tandey's line of fire. The enemy soldier was wounded and did not even attempt to raise his own rifle. Tandey chose not to shoot. The German soldier saw him lower his rifle and nodded his thanks before wandering off. That soldier is purported to have been Adolf Hitler." There is more information on wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Tandey Although disputed....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Baker Posted May 28, 2014 Share #55 Posted May 28, 2014 Just watched part two. This is an extremely poor production by the "History Channel". They should have stuck to the traditional documentary type of format. If you close your eyes and just listen, it is bearable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfairclo Posted May 28, 2014 Share #56 Posted May 28, 2014 Hellfish, You are exactly right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobL Posted May 28, 2014 Share #57 Posted May 28, 2014 Patton riding the Stuart across no-man's-land was bad enough. How about Patton and those Dodge Touring cars chasing Pancho Villa in 1916? (that much is legit) But now sporting machine gun pedestals with belt fed, water cooled M1917 Brownings banging away at the fleeing, mounted Villistas? A Pre-WWI Rat Patrol? Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
History Man Posted May 28, 2014 Share #58 Posted May 28, 2014 Well, after watching the 2nd part....I can honestly say that the History Channel needs to re-examine its name....maybe it should just stick to reality shows now, for that seems to be what they are good at (I can't honestly say how sad it is for me to say that). For this was one of the lesser shows that I have watched regarding the World Wars....a mix of the acting, absolutely horrid attempt at realism, and not to mention the countless historical and display flops. I do not think I can bring myself to watch the final part, as the show was tough to watch and take seriously. I think I will leave my overall sentiment to three main characters of Hogan's Heroes.... Philip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefallenbuddha Posted May 28, 2014 Share #59 Posted May 28, 2014 I thought it was interesting how the decision was made that in order to explain to American audiences about WW1, it needed to be explained within the context of WW2 figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darktrooper Posted May 28, 2014 Share #60 Posted May 28, 2014 It's like the SCI-FI Channel started doing history movies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefallenbuddha Posted May 28, 2014 Share #61 Posted May 28, 2014 It's like the SCI-FI Channel started doing history movies! Haven't you seen Warbirds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAST Posted May 28, 2014 Share #62 Posted May 28, 2014 So what do the non-forum members think? Denver Post Joanne Ostrow May 23, 2014 60 Nobody will accuse it of being ponderous or academic. It's expensive-looking and shallow but long. Wall Street Journal Nancy DeWolf Smith May 23, 2014 70 The World Wars has a few annoying habits, including pared-down descriptions that can be depressingly inane. Los Angeles Times Mary McNamara May 27, 2014 60 There is much to like and learn from the miniseries. Alas, executive producer Stephen David and his creative team seem intent on getting in their own way, cluttering up the inevitably fascinating narrative (offered here by Jeremy Renner) with all manner of clunky historical reenactments, hyperbolic characterizations and a soundtrack that should be shot for treason. Entertainment Weekly Ray Rahman May 23, 2014 75 The lush narrative style is alluring, but when Adolf Hitler starts to feel like a pulpy Batman villain, you'll suspect this isn't the most insightful account available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajbUSWM Posted May 28, 2014 Share #63 Posted May 28, 2014 Is history getting lost in the need to critique every knife, uniform, and gun? The historical side was being slammed before anyone even watched the series. Before even watching one minute of the show, one forum member was trying to say that they were “rewriting history”. The focus of the series is on Hitler, Churchill, DeGaulle, MacArthur, Patton, Stalin, and Mussolini. It sounds like this has sparked some interest in WWI which is a good thing. Let’s talk about the history being portrayed instead of complaining ad nausea about uniforms and weapons. ...Kat That was me. 1. "Rewriting history" was a formal declaration made publically by some powerful people a few years ago. That is being accomplished in many ways including usurping the history channel and other media sources to morph our history into something it was not. 2. The series tagline for Stalin was of a man that turned into a tyrant in WWII. The fact is that Stalin was always a tyrant and mass murderer. That tagline raised some questions if they were going to whitewash the evils of Stalin and communism. 3. The inaccuracies of the scenes, equipment, etc. is a minor issue really ... although we would expect better. 4. The best quote of the series so far was about Germany attempting to destroy Russia during WWI. They had sent a secret weapon. "... A weapon that promises to destroy the enemies from the inside out. That weapon was Vladimir Lenin (Socialism/communism)." I will say I was very pleased that the series acknowledged that Lenin and his socialism/communism agenda caused the collapse of Russia. So I am hopeful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Baker Posted May 28, 2014 Share #64 Posted May 28, 2014 4. I will say I was very pleased that the series acknowledged that Lenin and his socialism/communism agenda caused the collapse of Russia. Twice........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted May 28, 2014 Share #65 Posted May 28, 2014 I read every new post on every subject every day . When Fury comes out ……..I will stand by my work 100% …... owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted May 28, 2014 Share #66 Posted May 28, 2014 Now …….. If only I could find a matching pair of socks after I do a load in my washing machine I would rule the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugme Posted May 28, 2014 Share #67 Posted May 28, 2014 When Fury comes out ……..I will stand by my work 100% …... We'd expect no less from you Owen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garandomatic Posted May 28, 2014 Author Share #68 Posted May 28, 2014 Even if there turns out to be a couple of things hinky with Fury, it is clear that effort was made. I have high school students that know better than the people that did this History Channel pile. One asked me today if I had seen it, and said that he couldn't stand to keep watching it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyCanteen Posted May 28, 2014 Share #69 Posted May 28, 2014 I haven't seen it so I won't comment on it. But if it is on any form of screen I consider it to be dramatized entertainment based on history. If I want to learn I pick up a book or go to an archive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Baker Posted May 28, 2014 Share #70 Posted May 28, 2014 I haven't seen it so I won't comment on it. But if it is on any form of screen I consider it to be dramatized entertainment based on history. If I want to learn I pick up a book or go to an archive. And make sure it is several books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Baker Posted May 28, 2014 Share #71 Posted May 28, 2014 I read every new post on every subject every day . When Fury comes out ……..I will stand by my work 100% …... owen What did you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugme Posted May 28, 2014 Share #72 Posted May 28, 2014 And make sure it is several books. True, you need several on the same subject often just to find the truth and get past author bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Baker Posted May 28, 2014 Share #73 Posted May 28, 2014 True, you need several on the same subject often just to find the truth and get past author bias. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutiger83 Posted May 28, 2014 Share #74 Posted May 28, 2014 True, you need several on the same subject often just to find the truth and get past author bias. And with today's technology, they are finding more and more about history. I saw a special regarding Custer. With today's technology, they were able to track where people were on the battlefield. They even think they know the spot where the last soldier was killed. The discoveries made about The Hunley are fascinating. They are finding that the South was much more technologically advanced than once believed. As Bob Hudson said on page one of this thread, sometimes rewriting history is a very good thing since we should not have to learn from outdated information. Just as an example, it has been said that serious discussion of the Battle of Little Bighorn was hampered by Libby Custer's devotion to her husbands image. She outlived most of those involved in the battle so it is possible no one wanted to speak against her. Over 130 years later we still don't have the full story. I would welcome new information to shed light on a subject like that, or we can sit around reading the same stories published in the 1870s. ...Kat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uplandmod Posted May 28, 2014 Share #75 Posted May 28, 2014 Yes because everybody knows that Patton rode a WWII tank in WWI, he was that good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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