djltucker Posted May 4, 2014 Share #1 Posted May 4, 2014 I recently came across two photos posted on another military post that I did not know existed. Upon ordering up high resolution copies from the National Archives I made an amazing discovery - I was able to ID a TBF plane that was flown by my uncle, William R Larson of Hanks, North Dakota while he was operating from Munda Airfield from October 17 to December 27 1943. By cross-referencing declassified Mission Reports of the subject squadrons, I was able to decipher the Plane Numbers with Bureau Numbers of the following planes in these two photographs. I was also able to list the names of the pilots who flew these planes. Photo #1: (right to left) Squadron Plane # / Bureau Plane # / Pilot Name / Date / Squadron #129 UNKNOWN #101 06190 Leidecker 11/10/43 VMTB-143, Daugherty 10/26/43 VMTB-232 #104 47504 Metzelaars 10/30/43 VMTB-232, Gammage 10/31/43 VC38, Harris 11/10/43 VMTB -143 #115 47501 White 10/26/43 VMTB-232, Glenn 11/20/43 VMTB-143, Bauder 9/15/43 VMTB-233 #05 24182 Leake 9/14/43 VC38, Regan 10/26/43 VC38, Draughon 11/14 & 24/43 VC38, Giblin 11/10/43 VC38, Boyden 11/20/43 VMTB-233, Larson 10/2,8,9,&10/43 VC38 Phone #2 (left to right) Squadron Plane # / Bureau Plane # / Pilot Name / Date / Squadron #118 24482 Yeast 11/20/43 unknown and Ranson 11/24/43 unknown #131 47506 Morrison 10/31/43 VC38 and Leake 11/10/43 VC38 #108 06472 Bartholf 9/15/43 VMTB233, Larson 10/28/43 VC38, Webb 11/10 & 20/43 VMTB-143, Dahiani 11/24/43 unknown #130 06341 Burris 10/26/43 VMTB-232, Collura 10/31/43 VC40, Phillippi 11/10/43 VC38, Ranson 11/20/43 unknown, McDonald 11/24/43 VC38 Plane #108 (circled in red) was flown by my uncle, Lt. William R Larson on October 28, 1943 while VC38, VC40, and VMTB-143 bombed and strafed Kara Airfield. These TBFs were a mix of TBF, TBF-1, and TBF-1c planes. The planes were all interchangeable between Naval and Marine squadrons based on William's Aviator Flight Log Book and the available Mission Reports. Photo location of crew on wing: Munda Airfield, New Georgia Island, Solomons in October to November 1943 Munda Airfield after the war William at NAAS Otay Mesa, CA I unfortunately have not been able to discover the fate of these planes. They seemed to have disappeared after being moved on to the next island - Piva Airdrome on the Island of Bougainville in January of 1944. Best Regards, Don Larson of Portland Oregon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vostoktrading Posted May 10, 2014 Share #2 Posted May 10, 2014 Great photos and research Don, thanks for sharing this information. It's great that you could find out this information about your uncle. Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garandomatic Posted October 10, 2014 Share #3 Posted October 10, 2014 My dad ended up going to a WWII reenactment of the PTO while visiting my brother last weekend, and thought of me when he saw a marine staff sergeant uniform. Turns out he was with VMTB(also known as VMSB)-233 from Guadalcanal until the last days of the war. Pretty sure he was ground crew. Thought I'd chime in on your post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uplandmod Posted October 10, 2014 Share #4 Posted October 10, 2014 I own a uniform from a marine who was a rear gunner on a TBM in VMSB 143. It's such an unique coat in my collection. Like you I was able to get the names of the pilot and radioman from his plane from the unit diaries on Fold3. Fascinating that you were able to match the names to the planes in the photos. Great research! LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djltucker Posted October 13, 2014 Author Share #5 Posted October 13, 2014 Thanks for the notes. Since I originally posted, I have some updates: A couple of updates and corrections to the list of pilots:2nd Lt. James L. Yeast and 2nd Lt. Louis T. Ranson were both pilots with VMTB-143Damiani was a pilot with VMTB-232 - the famous Red Devils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garandomatic Posted October 13, 2014 Share #6 Posted October 13, 2014 Any info in your records for a William Q Gandy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uplandmod Posted February 17, 2015 Share #7 Posted February 17, 2015 Thanks for the notes. Since I originally posted, I have some updates: A couple of updates and corrections to the list of pilots: 2nd Lt. James L. Yeast and 2nd Lt. Louis T. Ranson were both pilots with VMTB-143 Damiani was a pilot with VMTB-232 - the famous Red Devils The Marine uniform I own was the Rear Gunner for 2nd Lt. Yeast. LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Signor Posted February 18, 2015 Share #8 Posted February 18, 2015 VC-40 emblem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyM Posted November 11, 2015 Share #9 Posted November 11, 2015 Aircraft #129 should be BuNo 47510 It is good to have confirmation on the other side/bureau number combinations from another source! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djltucker Posted November 12, 2015 Author Share #10 Posted November 12, 2015 Thank you LuckyM for that information. I reviewed again the mission reports from VC38. Your are exactly right - Lt. (jg) Robert B. Giblin flew squadron plane number 129 / BuNo 47510 during a TBF mission to Juba Village area on 7 November 1943. Additionally, First Lieutenant Garilli, USMC of VMTB 232 flew this plane on 26 October 1943 during a bombing mission to Kahili Airfield. Also, since I posted this original report, I have been able to identify the exact date of this photo of TBFs at Munda Airfield. The date is actually 26 October 1943. Best Regards, Don Portland Oregon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnfwertz Posted August 10, 2017 Share #11 Posted August 10, 2017 Hi Don, Where did you find the declassified mission reports? I just learned that my grandfather, John W. Frederick Jr., was a tail gunner with VMTB-232. I'd love to try and find info about aircraft and any crew he flew with. He shipped out with the squadron from San Diego to Noumea, New Caledonia in July of 1943. That's all I know. Thanks, John Wertz I recently came across two photos posted on another military post that I did not know existed. Upon ordering up high resolution copies from the National Archives I made an amazing discovery - I was able to ID a TBF plane that was flown by my uncle, William R Larson of Hanks, North Dakota while he was operating from Munda Airfield from October 17 to December 27 1943. Lt William R Larson photo.jpg By cross-referencing declassified Mission Reports of the subject squadrons, I was able to decipher the Plane Numbers with Bureau Numbers of the following planes in these two photographs. I was also able to list the names of the pilots who flew these planes. Photo #1: (right to left) Photo 1 TBF Munda.jpg Squadron Plane # / Bureau Plane # / Pilot Name / Date / Squadron #129 UNKNOWN #101 06190 Leidecker 11/10/43 VMTB-143, Daugherty 10/26/43 VMTB-232 #104 47504 Metzelaars 10/30/43 VMTB-232, Gammage 10/31/43 VC38, Harris 11/10/43 VMTB -143 #115 47501 White 10/26/43 VMTB-232, Glenn 11/20/43 VMTB-143, Bauder 9/15/43 VMTB-233 #05 24182 Leake 9/14/43 VC38, Regan 10/26/43 VC38, Draughon 11/14 & 24/43 VC38, Giblin 11/10/43 VC38, Boyden 11/20/43 VMTB-233, Larson 10/2,8,9,&10/43 VC38 Phone #2 (left to right) Squadron Plane # / Bureau Plane # / Pilot Name / Date / Squadron Photo 2 TBF Munda.jpg #118 24482 Yeast 11/20/43 unknown and Ranson 11/24/43 unknown #131 47506 Morrison 10/31/43 VC38 and Leake 11/10/43 VC38 #108 06472 Bartholf 9/15/43 VMTB233, Larson 10/28/43 VC38, Webb 11/10 & 20/43 VMTB-143, Dahiani 11/24/43 unknown #130 06341 Burris 10/26/43 VMTB-232, Collura 10/31/43 VC40, Phillippi 11/10/43 VC38, Ranson 11/20/43 unknown, McDonald 11/24/43 VC38 Plane #108 (circled in red) was flown by my uncle, Lt. William R Larson on October 28, 1943 while VC38, VC40, and VMTB-143 bombed and strafed Kara Airfield. These TBFs were a mix of TBF, TBF-1, and TBF-1c planes. The planes were all interchangeable between Naval and Marine squadrons based on William's Aviator Flight Log Book and the available Mission Reports. Log Book Oct 1943.jpg Intel Report Oct 28 1943 Page 1.jpg Intel Report Oct 28 1943 Page 2.jpg Photo location of crew on wing: Munda Airfield, New Georgia Island, Solomons in October to November 1943 Gunner Wright Pilot William Larson Radioman Wagner Munda and TBF.jpg Munda Airfield after the war Munda Airfield post war.jpg William at NAAS Otay Mesa, CA William Larson TBF at NAAS Otay Mesa July 1943.jpg I unfortunately have not been able to discover the fate of these planes. They seemed to have disappeared after being moved on to the next island - Piva Airdrome on the Island of Bougainville in January of 1944. Best Regards, Don Larson of Portland Oregon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djltucker Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share #12 Posted August 10, 2017 Hi John Wertz, most of the mission reports and war diaries available are all posted on a paid site: www.fold3.com. I'd be happy to show you how to search the data base for WWII mission reports for VMTB-232 in that time period. VMTB-232 had several tours and flew in some amazing conditions. They were the Red Devils. If you private message me I could send you an example of a mission report with your grandfather's crew and squadron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnfwertz Posted October 4, 2023 Share #13 Posted October 4, 2023 It's been a while since I've been a part of this conversation, but last year I was helping clear out my parents' attic (was my grandmother's) and I found 5 albums that were my grandfather's and ranged in date from 1943 to 1946 (Solomon Islands with VMTB-232, A couple of TBM-3E squadrons and VMF(N)-533 in Peiping). These photos are from his time with VMTB-232. The first says "Marine Pilots, Bougey" on the back. Of course Bougey is Bougainville. The others two on the back say "TBF on way to Rabaul". I think he took the photos, but I still can't find any mention of him being air crew. It's my understanding that he was a radio/gunner and flew 40 combat missions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
268th C.A. Posted October 4, 2023 Share #14 Posted October 4, 2023 Great history uncovered. Glad they survived the attic climates. A friend of mines uncle was a gunner too, he was training out of NAS Jax over the GA swamps, the pilot decided to do a roll, the twin 30 cals were not locked in, explain that one? there somewhere out there. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnfwertz Posted October 5, 2023 Share #15 Posted October 5, 2023 I was surprised they survived, too. They'd probably been up there since my grandma moved in in 1971 and the attic wasn't climate controlled. The house is in central Illinois, so cold winters and humid summers. I'm guessing those 30 cals haven't survived the years as well as these photos, wherever they are. 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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