Steve1987 Posted April 11, 2014 Share #1 Posted April 11, 2014 Good evening gentlemen, Lately there’s been a lot of debate about the possibility of a generation of high quality fake USMC depot made first aid pouches (FAP’s) aimed at deceiving collectors. This post is long overdue and I feel like I still ‘rushed’ some of my points and left a few things out but I’d like to get the discussion rolling. As we know, original examples of USMC FAP’s are extremely scarce and can be broken down into three variations that are accepted as authentic. I’ve decided to start this post with some photos of textbook original USMC FAP’s: Top left: Type III Centre left: Type III Bottom left: Type II Top Right: Type II Centre Right: Type I Bottom Right: Type II Fronts: Backs: In the following photos the questionable pouch has taken the place of the original type I pouch, centre right. I have taken the unmodified type I pouch out of the photo because the questionable pouch has little in common with it. Backs with questionable pouch: I will be the first to admit I purchased one from a forum member (who very generously offered me a full refund!) and for a while I too thought this was an original USMC FAP. It was another respected forum member who helped come up with the list below (many points I didn't notice on my own), and I hope he will join the discussion as he's an advanced USMC FAP collector. I will mainly be using a rather nice condition original type III pouch for the detailed comparison below. The original pouch is on the right of this photo: Here’s some characteristics of the questionable pouch: 1 > The female portion of the button from the exterior is slightly larger despite having the correct interior Carr markings. Originals are typically slightly more dome shaped. The female button has convinced a lot of collectors this is an original item because it does in fact have the correct markings on the interior. 2> The male portion on the questionable pouches always lacks the Carr markings on the back found inside the pouch. Every FAP I’ve ever owned or examined that I’ve felt was original has these markings. The only pouches to lack these markings are the style in question. Properly marked male buttons are also used on original USMC DQP .45 mag pouches. Original: Questionable: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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