Dr_rambow Posted February 27, 2014 Share #1 Posted February 27, 2014 I'm trying to replicate the proper contents for post 1910-1918 US Navy landing force. According to the plates in the official manual (1916, updated to 1917), the haversack should contain four 5oz(?) cartons of hard bread for 20oz total. I have seen plenty of the WWI era tinplate 8oz bread containers, but have never seen the smaller versions that the manual calls for. If someone has pictures of a first pattern Bacon tin, that would be wonderful as well. Secondly, I am having a difficult time finding out what size towel was issued for the purpose of holding the toiletries. Some rough math puts it at around 34"x18", but it is hard to tell exactly due to the folds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyCanteen Posted February 27, 2014 Share #2 Posted February 27, 2014 Unless you are doing a pre-1917 display I would just go with the M1916 can. Nearly everything shown is prewar because the photographs were taken pre-war and reused. Use it as a basic guide, but don't take the actual versions of equipment pictured as the only 'correct' ones. If you wanted to do it by the photo (which was only representative) then you would need the early M1910 pack complete with the very elusive pack tail. During WWI the Navy had more men than ships. Any and every piece of equipment was issued, including the M1903 cartridge belt. But they also used newer 1917-1918 equipment too. RC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_rambow Posted February 27, 2014 Author Share #3 Posted February 27, 2014 I am, actually. Otherwise I would never bother. I have just about everything for 1917-1918 US army (plus some duplicates) and, like many of you, have been on the hunt for early material. I have most of the OD pre-WWI 1910 rig already (The elusive pack tail is still on the list), but the contents are what really bother me because I have no real reference for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldabewla Posted February 28, 2014 Share #4 Posted February 28, 2014 I picked up this soap container tin which is made from brass and nickle plated thinking it was WWII and I see it is in the photo of your posted manual. I know a military dealer set up in a antique mall that has a box of the condimeny containers he wrote on the box they are WWII but they look like what is in the photo I will have to take a second look next time. Here is also a picture of a pre war 03 manual/ score book dated 1915 Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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US Victory Museum Posted March 1, 2014 Share #7 Posted March 1, 2014 These sailors in the foreground dressed in their working whites, arecarrying P1878 blanket bags. The sailor on the far left standing andfacing towards the camera appears to be wearing a 1910 haversack.As this is the Vera Cruz, Mexico landing, which occurred in 1914, allthe P1910 haversacks would be 1st pattern. The 2nd pattern 1910haversack (the typical ubiquitous WWI variety) weren't made until 1915. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Victory Museum Posted March 1, 2014 Share #8 Posted March 1, 2014 This landing party appear in their working blues (Note CPO 2nd from Left).They are all wearing P1912 pistol belts, 1st pattern 1910 haversacks,canteens w/ *RIMLESS* eagle snap covers, and sidearms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Victory Museum Posted March 1, 2014 Share #9 Posted March 1, 2014 1914 Vera Cruz, Mexico.1st Pasttern 1910 Haversacks, Note: no shovel, axe, or mattox.Drop holsters for the M1911 side arm.Blankets w/ or w/o shalter half. As this is city occupation andfighting, one could assume they would be garrisoned in a buildingand would not be in need of a shelter-half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Victory Museum Posted March 1, 2014 Share #10 Posted March 1, 2014 Aside from the squid caps, these guys could pass for army infantrymen.Pull-over shirts and breeches. NB: They's still using the old styleP1878 spheroid type canteens. It is difficuly to distinguish whether these shirts have pointed pocketflaps, like those of the Marines, or squared flaps like those of the Army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Victory Museum Posted March 1, 2014 Share #11 Posted March 1, 2014 1914 Vera Cruz, MexicoToday, the city is spelled "Veracruz"END OF POST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VolunteerArmoury Posted March 13, 2014 Share #12 Posted March 13, 2014 It may be specified & I've yet to find it but if not would one recommend a blue Navy blanket for the roll or an OD blanket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1a2u2 Posted December 13, 2018 Share #13 Posted December 13, 2018 It may be specified & I've yet to find it but if not would one recommend a blue Navy blanket for the roll or an OD blanket? Did they even issue blue navy blankets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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