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Any chance this is a legitimate VN era US-used Lizard Camo shirt?


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Found this at an antique show, and don't know what to think. I know Portuguese camo looks like this, but this is vertical HBT, and the pattern appears to be printed horizontally, which I think is a French trait. I looked on here to little avail, as one post mentioned a shirt, but the pictures were no longer hosted. The tags also do not look like Portuguese, either.

 

Gimme the verdict, fellas. Did I do OK, or should I start a "lessons" section to the collection with this one???

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I saw a few pictures on another VN camo post that could be examples of this, but I do not know.

 

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Looking for the following:

452nd and 447th Bomb Group items

Anything 12th Armored- especially uniforms

155th Assault Helicopter Company, Camp Coryell, or Ban Me Thuot Vietnam items[/center]


WWII US Navy Uniforms from the Battle Off Samar: USS Johnston DD-557, USS Hoel DD-553, USS Samuel B. Roberts DE-413, USS Heermann DD-532, USS Dennis DE-405, USS John C. Butler DE-339, USS Raymond DE-341, USS Fanshaw Bay St. Lo, White Plains, Kalinin Bay, Kitkun Bay and Gambier Bay...


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More. Detail of the button, fabric, etc.

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Anything 12th Armored- especially uniforms

155th Assault Helicopter Company, Camp Coryell, or Ban Me Thuot Vietnam items[/center]


WWII US Navy Uniforms from the Battle Off Samar: USS Johnston DD-557, USS Hoel DD-553, USS Samuel B. Roberts DE-413, USS Heermann DD-532, USS Dennis DE-405, USS John C. Butler DE-339, USS Raymond DE-341, USS Fanshaw Bay St. Lo, White Plains, Kalinin Bay, Kitkun Bay and Gambier Bay...


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THere is also evidence of a name tape on the right side, but I did read that the Portuguese ones sometimes has a US Army tape added for sale here in the 80s.

 

I also saw this same shirt on a forum described as a Modelle 58, or Mle.58, but it was not a conclusive declaration.

Looking for the following:

452nd and 447th Bomb Group items

Anything 12th Armored- especially uniforms

155th Assault Helicopter Company, Camp Coryell, or Ban Me Thuot Vietnam items[/center]


WWII US Navy Uniforms from the Battle Off Samar: USS Johnston DD-557, USS Hoel DD-553, USS Samuel B. Roberts DE-413, USS Heermann DD-532, USS Dennis DE-405, USS John C. Butler DE-339, USS Raymond DE-341, USS Fanshaw Bay St. Lo, White Plains, Kalinin Bay, Kitkun Bay and Gambier Bay...


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Yeah, been through that one. I did see a guy wearing a very similar one in that the buttons were all hidden like this, and the epaulettes were sewn similarly. Had the sleeves rolled up, so I couldn't tell.

Looking for the following:

452nd and 447th Bomb Group items

Anything 12th Armored- especially uniforms

155th Assault Helicopter Company, Camp Coryell, or Ban Me Thuot Vietnam items[/center]


WWII US Navy Uniforms from the Battle Off Samar: USS Johnston DD-557, USS Hoel DD-553, USS Samuel B. Roberts DE-413, USS Heermann DD-532, USS Dennis DE-405, USS John C. Butler DE-339, USS Raymond DE-341, USS Fanshaw Bay St. Lo, White Plains, Kalinin Bay, Kitkun Bay and Gambier Bay...


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This a French Army TTA 47 camo jacket and yes it is Vietnam period. Probably swapped with French troops in Germany.

The other topic picture is Army Rangers in Germany wearing french airborne TAP56 camo smocks.

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That's pretty cool, then! Thanks!

Looking for the following:

452nd and 447th Bomb Group items

Anything 12th Armored- especially uniforms

155th Assault Helicopter Company, Camp Coryell, or Ban Me Thuot Vietnam items[/center]


WWII US Navy Uniforms from the Battle Off Samar: USS Johnston DD-557, USS Hoel DD-553, USS Samuel B. Roberts DE-413, USS Heermann DD-532, USS Dennis DE-405, USS John C. Butler DE-339, USS Raymond DE-341, USS Fanshaw Bay St. Lo, White Plains, Kalinin Bay, Kitkun Bay and Gambier Bay...


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The printed US Army tape was common in the late 1960's and early 1970's.

Gil Burket
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Specializing in Fakes and Reproductions
of the Vietnam War

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As Andrei pointed out these were often encountered in Germany.I think there are photos of LRRP units in training in Germany wearing these.

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I hate to buy to sell, but is there a demand for these?

Looking for the following:

452nd and 447th Bomb Group items

Anything 12th Armored- especially uniforms

155th Assault Helicopter Company, Camp Coryell, or Ban Me Thuot Vietnam items[/center]


WWII US Navy Uniforms from the Battle Off Samar: USS Johnston DD-557, USS Hoel DD-553, USS Samuel B. Roberts DE-413, USS Heermann DD-532, USS Dennis DE-405, USS John C. Butler DE-339, USS Raymond DE-341, USS Fanshaw Bay St. Lo, White Plains, Kalinin Bay, Kitkun Bay and Gambier Bay...


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Nothing against people that do, pal. I have always been more of a collector. If my stuff weren't fairly organized, I'd be a hoarder. I have always wanted to hang onto anything cool and unique that I find, and I also feel a bit self-conscious by posting a "what's this and how much is it worth" thread here and not the "What's it worth" section. Ordinarily, I'd hang onto something like this, but I've had to thin down the collection a bit to afford new stuff since the collecting budget ain't what it used to be.

Looking for the following:

452nd and 447th Bomb Group items

Anything 12th Armored- especially uniforms

155th Assault Helicopter Company, Camp Coryell, or Ban Me Thuot Vietnam items[/center]


WWII US Navy Uniforms from the Battle Off Samar: USS Johnston DD-557, USS Hoel DD-553, USS Samuel B. Roberts DE-413, USS Heermann DD-532, USS Dennis DE-405, USS John C. Butler DE-339, USS Raymond DE-341, USS Fanshaw Bay St. Lo, White Plains, Kalinin Bay, Kitkun Bay and Gambier Bay...


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