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John Cooper
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Would any authentic unicorn(oxymoron I know) WASP wing from Amico have the simple text HM or would it not likely be the full crest HM? Those sold so far have had the simple, presumed later, AMICO text HM.

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rathbonemuseum.com

Warning. In my opinion this is a cast copy of an original WASP pilot wing. The pictures aren't great but based on the softness of the hallmark and the inconsistent "ridge" outlining the back of the diamond (unequal thickness). 

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/313508351831

 

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Bull Moose, I just wanted to add that I trust militarybizniz, I have yet to see a mistake from them. Cant say they are flawless but I follow the account on ebay

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Personally I can never see getting into a bidding war.

Bidding a large sum, days in advance invites this.

Use a snipe tool like auction stealer, decide what you are willing to pay and let the chips fall at 5 seconds.

An old piece of advice…follow the item, not the bid…

John

 

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rathbonemuseum.com

I am going to ask that this conversation about ebay, shill bidders and the BMA wing conclude as this thread is focused on "wings, are they good or not". The wing we agreed is good from what we all see. Let's leave it at that. At least here. Thank you.

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Well said John.  You are absolutely correct.


The thing is, I suspect that this may be one of the pieces from Duncan Campbell's collection.  There were one or two WWI bombardier wings that sold right about 3500$.  It is my understanding that those wings have circulated through various collections and auction sites over the last decade or so (periodically showing up for sale) and have typically sold in the 3200-3500 range... so they really haven't gone up in value (especially when taxes and premiums are taken into account).  In fact, I believe a JJ Sweeney bombardier wing was offered for sale back in one of Russ Huff's Wings and Things semiannual publications for right about 2500-3000 dollars... (and that was back in the 90's).  My point is that this is NOT going to be sleeper and I suspect that it will top out somewhere in the 3500 range. Of course, there are always those whacky auctions when two or more deep pocket buyers really want an item and drive the prices to crazy town.  The "I got to have it" auction when both put in snipe bids of $5K with 2.29 seconds left...

 

This auction isn't a sleeper where no one knows what it is or people are unlikely to see it because it is listed in the collectible toys section listed as a cracker jack toy.  No matter what (shill bidders aside) I suspect the lowest bid it would sell for would be close to $3000.

 

There are also some guys that just like to bid up an auction.  Not really shill bidders, but the figure for at least a day or two, they get to be the one who has their name being the winning bid on an auction.  Some guys also put a good sized bid on the item to keep the dealer from selling it off before the end.  I am sure there were a fair number of "hey, will you take 2500$ to end the auction now" emails being sent.

 

 

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I understand. A mod has requested we drop it here. I was trying to politely move the thread back to the topic. I think we all understand your issue and don't all necessarily disagree.

Dave

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rathbonemuseum.com

I ask again, please drop this line of complaint on this thread as it is no longer relevant or informative to the thread. This is a second warning. Feel free to go take your issue here and get it out of this content section.

https://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/forum/1574-buyers-sellers-report-section/

 

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No one reason but due to the long thread could we maybe lock this thread and start a, "Is this wing good? Post you advice requests here! - part 2!" ?

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Picked these up about a month ago, I don’t think they are original I think they are one of the reunion wings, but what do you guys think?

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That pattern up in the shoulder area appears quite a bit different than the others shown by Josten as is the location of the hallmark. Aren't the pins of post war construction?

Just some questions from an observer.

Dave

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rathbonemuseum.com

here is an official 1974 WASP issued reunion wing made with the original Josten dies, which the WASP controlled. The wing you have is not from the 1974 reunion, which is marked accordingly. I think there were some made for the WASP to distribute. They were never for sale and not in large numbers.

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5thwingmarty

To quote Patrick's response to an earlier post in this thread:

 

"Buyer beware.  There are some other threads about the STER LGB and the wide pin placement on these wings that were probably made for collectors in the 90-2000s."

 

These have been discussed many times on the forum.  

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Beat me with my own old post!  LOL. 

 

Yes, walk carefully around these.


BTW, I am not a good enough person with the intenet, but this is what that LGB glider pilot wing SHOULD look like (not endorsing any particular auction).  Hopefully someone can capture the images, because once the auction is gone, the pictures are lost.

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/284194684027?hash=item422b52bc7b:g:~5AAAOSwsxxgJubi

Note the STERLING and LGB mark (including size, font and placement) and the positions of the pin.

 

Years ago, I was told that a number of collectors/dealers started approaching various companies (including LGB, Blankinton and NS Meyer) to see if they could get new wing badges generated for collectors. If you have the second edition of Charles Fitzsimmon's book, he apparently showed a number of LGB and Blackinton-made restrikes as originals.  He then apparently sold them via old ASMIC Trading post offerings... I know, I bought a couple of those off of him before I wised up.

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Yeah, I'm suspicious of any lettered wing and remember a few pages back now. Add G to the TO and balloon wings marked LGB STER.

Of course they bid up an obvious restrike glider wing last week to $150 or so when the seller listed had also two other restrikes all closing about the same time. Just seeing multiple wings from the same seller with the identical make and patina should be the first curiosity.

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5thwingmarty

I like that the real one Patrick shared a link to is less expensive than the restrike, and the restrike is within a dollar of the other genuine one on ebay right now.  Maybe someone with a genuine one can send photos to Bob to add to his website.

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