Marked Helmet Liners, The Unsung Hero Of The M-1

[mysteriousoozlefinch]

355th Engineer Battalion (Camo) DI on a liner worn by Lt. Col. Hawkins H. Menefee.

Source: The Portal for Texas History

[GMPETE]

A couple I used to own...

 

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3 hours ago, GMPETE said:

A couple I used to own...

 

Hmm U P, UNIT POLICE???

 

[GMPETE]

I never did figure it out patches.    It was a very clean, named,  lightly used, mid-war liner with green hardware found in Hawaii.  My guess is it was not issued until well after the war when the dark green/black repaint, decals and markings were applied.   A pic of the opposite side...

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19 hours ago, GMPETE said:

I never did figure it out patches.    It was a very clean, named,  lightly used, mid-war liner with green hardware found in Hawaii.  My guess is it was not issued until well after the war when the dark green/black repaint, decals and markings were applied.   A pic of the opposite side...

This number we can say stands for B Company 1st Battalion 298th Infantry. And will date sometime in the 1950s when the 298th Infantry is reactivated after WWII in 1946 as a Regimental Combat Team, regiment broken up though in late 1956 early 1957 into a few Anti Aircraft units.

 

That patch decal is for the Headquarters Hawaii National Guard  adopted 14 March 1949, the 298th RCT is on the books with a shoulder patch all it's own, but they don't seem to have worn it, just this Headquarters Hawaii National Guard one.

 

 

This patch here, its one that is heavly REPROed rare as it is.

 

[GMPETE]

42 minutes ago, patches said:

This number we can say stands for B Company 1st Battalion 298th Infantry. And will date sometime in the 1950s when the 298th Infantry is reactivated after WWII in 1946 as a Regimental Combat Team, regiment broken up though in late 1956 early 1957 into a few Anti Aircraft units.

 

That patch decal is for the Headquarters Hawaii National Guard  adopted 14 March 1949, the 298th RCT is on the books with a shoulder patch all it's own, but they don't seem to have worn it, just this Headquarters Hawaii National Guard one.

 

 

This patch here, its one that is heavly REPROed rare as it is.

 

Great info patches.  I recognized the Kamehameha decal as National Guard but was unaware it was never a patch, and hadn’t seen the headquarters patch you show.  Thanks for the regimental ID.

[Salvage Sailor]

On 9/8/2017 at 1:32 PM, Salvage Sailor said:

299th Regimental Combat Team - Hawaii National Guard (reconstituted)

 

15 October 1954 - 15 February 1959.

 

Here's my 299th RCT liner, Hawaii National Guard circa 1954-1959 which has both the 299th DUI & RCT decals (shown in detail on page 18 of this topic)

 

[Salvage Sailor]

20 hours ago, GMPETE said:

A couple I used to own...

 

 

The "Right Face" Kamehameha Decal on the liner you posted above is exactly what you would expect to see on a HNG RCT HQ  liner between 1954 & 1959.  It fits in well with Colonel Hee's (198th RCT Hawaii National Guard) helmet liner with the right-face Kamehameha decal which I've shown before (below, more details on page 18 of this topic). His liner also has no decal on the left side.  The insignia was originally approved for Headquarters and Headquarters Detachment, Hawaii National Guard on 14 March 1949.  After this period, the Kamehameha patch and decal was flipped to face left.  Finding an original right face Kamehameha decal/patch is rare indeed.

 

 

 

 

 

[GMPETE]

On 2/23/2021 at 3:13 PM, Salvage Sailor said:

 

The "Right Face" Kamehameha Decal on the liner you posted above is exactly what you would expect to see on a HNG RCT HQ  liner between 1954 & 1959.  It fits in well with Colonel Hee's (198th RCT Hawaii National Guard) helmet liner with the right-face Kamehameha decal which I've shown before (below, more details on page 18 of this topic). His liner also has no decal on the left side.  The insignia was originally approved for Headquarters and Headquarters Detachment, Hawaii National Guard on 14 March 1949.  After this period, the Kamehameha patch and decal was flipped to face left.  Finding an original right face Kamehameha decal/patch is rare indeed.

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for the additional information.  Seeing your liner in this thread is what prompted me to post mine.   I am sorry I did not see it before I let it go as I guess it would have completed your set.  Do you have any thoughts about the 'U P' on the front?

[shadawg]

hadn't seen these markings make this list yet. attributed to an army engineer. the hub markings may or may not be solely attributed to the unit, which post war was written on the nco bar, but i feel they might belong to a larger group this unit was attached too. so far, research has turned up null on me.

[The Rooster]

This is my Favorite liner.

[elh1311]

1951 CAPAC paratrooper liner with 49th Armored Division decals on each side, name etched in the brim with U.S. marked chinstrap and Spec-5 rank decal on the front. 

 

Looks to have been used as a parade helmet of sorts. Also appears to have never seen the inside of a steel pot. 

[elh1311]

Another 1951 CAPAC paratrooper liner. Heavily used with Strategic Air Command declas on both sides, painted blue. Chinstrap is unmarked and the sweatband is a 1953 Steinberg Bros. 

 

As for the graffiti, I'm not sure what any of it means. 

[GMan37]

Here's the only one I own.  I know it's 43rd infantry and a WW2 liner, but would appreciate opinions on the decal (post war?).  Thanks in advance, Gary.        

[GMan37]

Forgot to mention it's marked D17 over a circle W (Westinghouse).

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5 hours ago, GMan37 said:

Here's the only one I own.  I know it's 43rd infantry and a WW2 liner, but would appreciate opinions on the decal (post war?).  Thanks in advance, Gary.        

Yes 1950s would be our guess, any other decal on the other side?

 

Troops of the 172nd Infantry 43rd Infantry Division in 1955.

 

[GMan37]

No, just the one on the right.  Thanks for the pic!

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3 hours ago, GMan37 said:

No, just the one on the right.  Thanks for the pic!

Hmm, there are normally two, a regimental/battalion on besides the higher command one, which might be either division, army, or corps, in the case of a non regimental/battalion unit, such as the headquarters of an division, army, or corps, then a second higher command decal, like in the case of your liner two 43rd Inf Div decals. Maybe there was ne there and it was removed for whatever reason.

[GMan37]

I looked and don't see any indication another decal was there on the other side, but who knows?  I'll look using different light later and make sure I'm not missing anything.  Does this look like WW2 paint or later paint to you?  (I'm sorry, but I know very little.).  Just curious how much they were modified/or not for later use.  Thanks again

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12 hours ago, GMan37 said:

I looked and don't see any indication another decal was there on the other side, but who knows?  I'll look using different light later and make sure I'm not missing anything.  Does this look like WW2 paint or later paint to you?  (I'm sorry, but I know very little.).  Just curious how much they were modified/or not for later use.  Thanks again

Probably a repaint.

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The MP unit of the 40th Infantry Division in 1950, perhaps at Ft Ord California after this California National Guard Division was federalized, what's intersting is these MPs are wearing their Helmet Liners in an Indoor Mess Hall, perhaps they are all Under Arms?? We would suppose their liners are Yellow

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A early 50s Liner, with 1948 Reg Chevron Decals and 3rd Army, we assume 3rd Army decals are on both sides, whats intersting is it looks like even the lettering are decals. Unit unknown, as it has the Combat branch Chevron, maybe a Field Artillery or a Anti Aircraft unit at under 3rd Army??.

[fight]

Here's one from the 47th "Viking" Division. 

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A 98th Training Division Liner, 1960s we should think, that other Decal with the  damage on it is for the Headquarters of the Division, it was interestingly first adopted in WWII.

The distinctive unit insignia was originally approved for the Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 98th Infantry Division on 5 March 1943. It was amended on 15 March 1943, to correct the wording of the description. On 24 April 1967, the insignia was redesignated for the noncolor bearing units of the 98th Division (Training). The insignia was amended to correct the wording of the symbolism on 20 April 1973. It was redesignated effective 16 September 2008, for the 98th Training Division.

 

 

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229th Field Artillery 28th Infantry Division liner, worn in the 50s but no later then 1959, as the 229th Field Artillery Battalion is Inactivated under CARS.