Nickman983 Posted May 7, 2020 Share #601 Posted May 7, 2020 29 minutes ago, patches said: Very interesting Nick, good stuff, here's two images I recently posted of the insignia on the 5th Inf Div liners from the period from one of their Basic Graduation Yearbooks, (the 5th Inf Dov being only a Training Division back then), note only the one photo we see the White Border, looks like a device of something in center of diamond, maybe regimental number, can't tell, the other are either a stencil or a decal without the White border, hard to tell and with other photos from this particular yearbook the Non White Border is seen on the liners. Thanks for sharing! What year is your book from? I've got a 5th ID yearbook from 1956 along with a few photos/slides from 1955/1956. I've looked through the book and the photos I had on hand and I didn't see a clear example of a helmet or liner with the 5th ID insignia. Most of the marked helmets/liners I saw were ranks, names, or companies. Interestingly enough I did spy a medic helmet being worn while going through grenade training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted May 7, 2020 Share #602 Posted May 7, 2020 4 hours ago, Nickman983 said: Thanks for sharing! What year is your book from? I've got a 5th ID yearbook from 1956 along with a few photos/slides from 1955/1956. I've looked through the book and the photos I had on hand and I didn't see a clear example of a helmet or liner with the 5th ID insignia. Most of the marked helmets/liners I saw were ranks, names, or companies. Interestingly enough I did spy a medic helmet being worn while going through grenade training. It is a July 1953 Yearbook for the 1st Battalion 11th Infantry, these guys started Basic and I assume Infantry AIT in this same unit in March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadawg Posted June 8, 2020 Share #603 Posted June 8, 2020 haven't seen these markings in here, so i'd figure i'd share. if anyone has any info on them, it would be much appreciated. having a hard time tracking them down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Camouflage Pattern I Posted June 8, 2020 Share #604 Posted June 8, 2020 Spain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadawg Posted June 8, 2020 Share #605 Posted June 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Cap Camouflage Pattern I said: Spain? iI dont believe so, as this one has a follow me bar, and a more american sounding name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted June 9, 2020 Share #606 Posted June 9, 2020 That there is American, a Cadre Liner or maybe a Student worn one for a unit of the Leadership Preparation Course at some unknown post, since the colors are Red and Yellow either Field Artillery/Anti Aircraft or Ordnance, the 9 on the discs maybe is the Class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted June 9, 2020 Share #607 Posted June 9, 2020 6 hours ago, patches said: That there is American, a Cadre Liner or maybe a Student worn one for a unit of the Leadership Preparation Course at some unknown post, since the colors are Red and Yellow either Field Artillery/Anti Aircraft or Ordnance, the 9 on the discs maybe is the Class. That patch by the way as seen painted on the front of the liner was always worn sewn to a Brassard, far as we can tell was not a shoulder patch in the strictest sense. PS, Might throw the Transportation Corps into the mix as their Branch Colors are Brick Red and Yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvage Sailor Posted June 9, 2020 Share #608 Posted June 9, 2020 15 hours ago, patches said: That patch by the way as seen painted on the front of the liner was always worn sewn to a Brassard, far as we can tell was not a shoulder patch in the strictest sense. PS, Might throw the Transportation Corps into the mix as their Branch Colors are Brick Red and Yellow. NCO ACADEMY Insignia, Note the Gold/Blue on the Left/Right......the inverse of the Blue/Gold examples you posted but a match for the helmet liner painted insignia. More photos of the NCO Academy insignia which I posted here Non Commissioned Officers Academy Hawaii pocket crests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted June 10, 2020 Share #609 Posted June 10, 2020 9 hours ago, Salvage Sailor said: NCO ACADEMY Insignia, Note the Gold/Blue on the Left/Right......the inverse of the Blue/Gold examples you posted but a match for the helmet liner painted insignia. More photos of the NCO Academy insignia which I posted here Non Commissioned Officers Academy Hawaii pocket crests Do you have a date when these were worn, looks very current. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvage Sailor Posted June 10, 2020 Share #610 Posted June 10, 2020 I received these from the Sergeant Major at NCOAH East Range (Schofield Barracks) in the 1990's where they wore them as pocket badges. Sergeant William R. Jecelin NCO Academy Hawaii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted June 11, 2020 Share #611 Posted June 11, 2020 10 hours ago, Salvage Sailor said: I received these from the Sergeant Major at NCOAH East Range (Schofield Barracks) in the 1990's where they wore them as pocket badges. Sergeant William R. Jecelin NCO Academy Hawaii 🤞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadawg Posted June 13, 2020 Share #612 Posted June 13, 2020 On 6/8/2020 at 8:47 PM, patches said: That there is American, a Cadre Liner or maybe a Student worn one for a unit of the Leadership Preparation Course at some unknown post, since the colors are Red and Yellow either Field Artillery/Anti Aircraft or Ordnance, the 9 on the discs maybe is the Class. thanks for the info brother, it really helped point me in the right direction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted June 14, 2020 Share #613 Posted June 14, 2020 7 hours ago, shadawg said: thanks for the info brother, it really helped point me in the right direction It looks of vintage, so a 50s or 60s worn item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxview Posted December 7, 2020 Share #614 Posted December 7, 2020 I bought this one while ago from a French seller when looking for a liner I could match with a Schlueter front seam who has an over-painted NCO bar but when it arrived I decided it would be a waste to hide it: Westinghouse WW2, unfortunately incomplete, according to my research (please correct if wrong information) from 2nd Medium Tank Battalion, 103rd Armor Regiment (ex. 628th Heavy Tank Battalion), 28th Infantry Division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxview Posted December 7, 2020 Share #615 Posted December 7, 2020 It has "B86" written in it and an - unfortunately unreadable - laundry number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxview Posted December 9, 2020 Share #616 Posted December 9, 2020 And two more liners I want to share with you, both from units deployed to Germany. First one belongs to 793rd MP Battalion, VII. Corps, USAREUR. Name and rank of previous owner "PFC Melvin" is written in it. The unit markings are painted, the blue and red stripes are taped. Sweatband has 1969 as contract date. Overall condition not the best: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxview Posted December 9, 2020 Share #617 Posted December 9, 2020 Second one comes from Army School, Europe. Rank (Staff Sergeant) and stripe are painted (over another layer with another rank insignia and a stripe in lighter blue), school insignia on both sides are decals. Sweatband from 1969. Unfortunately the paint is coming off and I don't have any good idea how to stop or at least slow down the process: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxview Posted December 9, 2020 Share #618 Posted December 9, 2020 The final one I am not sure about if it fits in here because it comes from the Civilian Support Group. Markings are for 4022nd Gd Bn (26th Spt Gp Heidelberg?)- The liner is dated 1976. Came with an early post WW2 McCord helmet (M 1A) and a Woodland cover dated 1980. Had a name in it once but unfortunately over-painted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted December 29, 2020 Share #619 Posted December 29, 2020 Emerging from a Vail of Red Smoke, troops of the 45th Inf Div during training at Ft Sill OK late-sh 1967. Thunderbirds Decaled liners all around, as are M1 Rifles typical of the National Guard then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadawg Posted January 4, 2021 Share #620 Posted January 4, 2021 i'd shared all these in FB groups, but figured might as well post them here too. the liner is my favorite piece to the helmet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted January 4, 2021 Share #621 Posted January 4, 2021 Marines right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadawg Posted January 4, 2021 Share #622 Posted January 4, 2021 2 hours ago, patches said: Marines right? i'm pretty sure given the color of the chevrons anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted January 5, 2021 Share #623 Posted January 5, 2021 7 hours ago, shadawg said: i'm pretty sure given the color of the chevrons anyways Korea era perhaps? USMC Reserve component?, though the USMC were not in the habit of doing their liners up in this manner, not like the Army, which would make this unique, I wonder what unit or base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadawg Posted January 5, 2021 Share #624 Posted January 5, 2021 3 hours ago, patches said: Korea era perhaps? USMC Reserve component?, though the USMC were not in the habit of doing their liners up in this manner, not like the Army, which would make this unique, I wonder what unit or base. i'd agree with that. liner is a late westinghouse with 1945 dated headband, so late 40's early 50's i'd figure. it would be interesting to see others done up like this, but maybe the owner just had an artistic eye, and wanted something special. I know other speculation was a bit more "merry" if you know what i mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted January 6, 2021 Share #625 Posted January 6, 2021 19 hours ago, shadawg said: i'd agree with that. liner is a late westinghouse with 1945 dated headband, so late 40's early 50's i'd figure. it would be interesting to see others done up like this, but maybe the owner just had an artistic eye, and wanted something special. I know other speculation was a bit more "merry" if you know what i mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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