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Yes definitely an early 50s worn liner by virtue of that 1948 REGs chvron decal, my guess around 1951 into 1952.

 

(1948 REG chevrons done away with like in October 1951, replaced by the traditional large size, but these small ones could be seen in use well after that Army Wide, both with the cloth sleeve ranks and rank decals).

 

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The Rooster

Here is another one. Looks like a ww2 webbing with newer sweatband and nape strap.

Has paint over side decals. Unfortunately someone scalped the paint off to get to them.. Thereby

Scratching the decals in the process… But all in all a nice Master sergeant

Seaman Paper Company Brand ww2 Liner.

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Wow that's a unique liner, it was from a GI of the West Virginia National Guard's 150th Regimental Combat Team of the Korean War era, a first we're seeing the Black Diamond patch, normally the 50s RCT patches rare in use, some were apparently never worn despite examples being adopted and manufactured, and are not seen being worn in any form. Too bad they're both damaged now.

 

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mysteriousoozlefinch

Whoa! Seconding patches, that's the first time I've seen the 150th RCT patch on anything!

 

Men from the Beckley company were shown wearing 2nd Army SSI in some photos I have seen from the mid-50s and probably posted here on the forum.

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I only have 2 painted liners, here is the 1st: WW II issue CAPAC liner 10th INf Div, 86th Inf Regt. I love the use of a chevron for the rank rather than a sticker...

 

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My second one, picked up from a vet I worked with: Vietnam era Ryukus Army Field Police

 

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Here is another one of my liners. Similar to above....

182nd Infantry of the Massachuttess NG, in the 50s it was a Regimental Combat Team just like the 150th Infantry down in West Virginia, any decal on the other side?

 

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Hey Patches… No its been removed. But Im pretty sure it was Yankee Divsion….

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I'll delete it if it's off topic too far, but this is the 150th RCT photo I've got from 1951. 150th DI on the side but 2nd Army on the other.

 

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Hey Patches… No its been removed. But Im pretty sure it was Yankee Divsion….

Right, then it would date from the late 50s into the 60s, then the 182nd Infantry was no longer a RCT and was reorganized under CARS and assigned as an additional unit to the 26th Infantry Division, this being the 1s Battle Group 182nd Infantry, after 1963 the 1st Battalion 182nd Infantry.

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I'll delete it if it's off topic too far, but this is the 150th RCT photo I've got from 1951. 150th DI on the side but 2nd Army on the other.

 

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Now why would this be off topic ozzle :lol: Great photo, very strange stuff these RCT patches huh.

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6 I moved the back end of the head band carefully.... down to its proper position on the harness. It was attached to the nape strap!

Pretty common and original set up by the original wearer. You should strongly consider putting it back to the way this found it.

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Pretty common and original set up by the original wearer. You should strongly consider putting it back to the way this found it.

Agreed. A soldier putting it in that position was not uncommon as this was often done to help facilitate a better positioning on his head. Not all heads are shaped the same.
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Now why would this be off topic ozzle :lol: Great photo, very strange stuff these RCT patches huh.

 

Well it's not an actual helmet! Going further off, here's a mass of 103rd RCT (Maine) helmets with marked liners from the Maine NG Historian.

 

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Pretty common and original set up by the original wearer. You should strongly consider putting it back to the way this found it.

Good advice…. But I moved it because it seemed like it was putting undue strain on the webbing and I am hoping to stop the deterioration somewhat. I can always be moved back.

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Cool Pictures!!! That wearing of the helmet liners must have been a 50's 60's thing ???

I was in the Guard infantry for 16-16 years and we never ever ever wore the liners without the pots.

Never.

 

 

 

Well it's not an actual helmet! Going further off, here's a mass of 103rd RCT (Maine) helmets with marked liners from the Maine NG Historian.

 

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I picked up these 2 liners today and a schlueter front seam swivel for fairly cheap.

Seller said they were all Vietnam era… The armored stickers might be faked on ? I don't know.. No close ups pf that one.. But the med sticker looks legit. But for 2 old liners and a front seam schlueter.. Im happy.

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Nice ones the II Corps and the Medical Corps one, the one is a WWII liner with a more late 50s 60s sweatband. Do know how to read the nomenclature stamps on your liners in your collection? Knowing how to read these will date when liners were worn.

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Nice ones the II Corps and the Medical Corps one, the one is a WWII liner with a more late 50s 60s sweatband. Do know how to read the nomenclature stamps on your liners in your collection? Knowing how to read these will date when liners were worn.

 

No Sir, I know the brand names.... But no idea of the nomenclatures... numbers or dates etc etc...

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