manayunkman Posted November 21, 2013 Share #1 Posted November 21, 2013 I'm pretty sure this was made in 1980. But I am a novice at understanding these labels. Can anyone confirm or deny my conclusion ? Thanks Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintageproductions Posted November 21, 2013 Share #2 Posted November 21, 2013 1980 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manayunkman Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share #3 Posted November 21, 2013 Thanks Bob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlebuddy Posted November 21, 2013 Share #4 Posted November 21, 2013 Are these jackets collectable at all ??? LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manayunkman Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share #5 Posted November 21, 2013 I would imagine if you had one that was ID'd to someone with all the bells and whistles it would have some value. Or if it were part of a group and was documented to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlebuddy Posted November 21, 2013 Share #6 Posted November 21, 2013 I have one but it is unworn etc !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1ashooter Posted November 21, 2013 Share #7 Posted November 21, 2013 Not a lot of collectors on newish flight jackets but they are warm to wear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FtrPlt Posted November 22, 2013 Share #8 Posted November 22, 2013 The CWU-series are interesting from a collecting standpoint for some since the design has been around since the mid-1970s. Using the jacket in this thread as an example, note the contract # --Mil-J-83382B. By 1980, the CWU-36 had already undergone two design changes (as indicated by the "B" suffix). The original contract was Mil-J-83382 which was, in turn, superceded by Mil-J-83382A. I'm not sure which pattern dropped the bi-swing back (a feature of the early versions) or what the differences are between them? Mil-J-83382C is the current version of the CWU-36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlebuddy Posted November 22, 2013 Share #9 Posted November 22, 2013 I must go and check which mine is now !!! im getting interested in this !!! thanks for the information !! LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FtrPlt Posted November 24, 2013 Share #10 Posted November 24, 2013 Your jacket should have a bi-swing back. The Mil-J-83382C omitted this when it was introduced in 10/81. In addition to the lack of a bi-swing, the underside of the collar for the C-spec has a series of parallel reinforcing stitches. The earlier versions have zig-zag stitching on the underside of the collars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stony Posted November 24, 2013 Share #11 Posted November 24, 2013 I have seen price ranges for both the CWU-36/P and the CWU-45/P all over the scale on ebay, craigslist and other sites. IMO, a plain one (either model), is worth about $50-100. If it has patches, then it depends on era when you add a few bucks. I've seen some people try and sell a plain one for $300-400 and they must be on drugs as there are just tons of them out there and easy to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlebuddy Posted November 24, 2013 Share #12 Posted November 24, 2013 Cant get to mine at the moment , but when I do ill be sure to post some pics of the label etc !! LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohawkALSE Posted November 24, 2013 Share #13 Posted November 24, 2013 Your jacket should have a bi-swing back. The Mil-J-83382C omitted this when it was introduced in 10/81. In addition to the lack of a bi-swing, the underside of the collar for the C-spec has a series of parallel reinforcing stitches. The earlier versions have zig-zag stitching on the underside of the collars. Funny you mention the Zig Zag stitching. I know this post is specifically on 36/P jackets but I decided to peek at my 2 45/P jackets that's I have right here by me. I know at one point or another I've seen zig zag stitches on the collars of one or more of the few CWU series jackets I have. Those jackets I've had range from 1988 to mid 2000s. One is new old stock 45/P from 1992 contract and has straight stitching on the underside of the collar. Under the spec for that, it has no letter identifier. The other is 45/P with a 2003 contract and it has zig zag stitching under the collar. That one for the spec is followed by the letter E. Now Ill have to go out to my trunk and see what the 36P is that I have, I know its a 2000s contract as well. 2 Others I have back in storage are a 88 contract 36/P and a 95 contract 45/P. Very odd how over the years small details are made to items that collectors pick up on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohawkALSE Posted November 24, 2013 Share #14 Posted November 24, 2013 Well I grabbed the 36P out of cars trunk. Its a 2005 contract C Spec, and it has zig zag stitching under the collar. I wonder why that is if it was to have changed under the C code spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FtrPlt Posted November 24, 2013 Share #15 Posted November 24, 2013 Well I grabbed the 36P out of cars trunk. Its a 2005 contract C Spec, and it has zig zag stitching under the collar. I wonder why that is if it was to have changed under the C code spec. Manufacturer variation? I only have a single example of the C-spec jacket. Mine is from 1993 and made by Carter Industries. My other two jackets are both B-spec jackets with the bi-swing backs. Now wondering if mine is the manufacturer variation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohawkALSE Posted November 25, 2013 Share #16 Posted November 25, 2013 Thats probably the likely answer. My C Spec 36P is 2005 contract and made by Valley Apparel, LLC. For the 45P jackets the 1992 jacket is Isratex Inc and the 2003 jacket is also a Valley Apparel LLC so it seems Valley still does the zig zag. The Isratex from 92 has the parallel stitching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manayunkman Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share #17 Posted November 25, 2013 Fighter Pilot, Thank you for the insight. That is great information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FtrPlt Posted November 25, 2013 Share #18 Posted November 25, 2013 Found the answer. It's an alternative collar stitch. Page 15, item #13 for those interested. You learn something new every day. http://www.everyspec.com/MIL-SPECS/MIL-SPECS-MIL-J/MIL-J-83382C_11051/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manayunkman Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share #19 Posted November 25, 2013 Found the answer. It's an alternative collar stitch. Page 15, item #13 for those interested. You learn something new every day. http://www.everyspec.com/MIL-SPECS/MIL-SPECS-MIL-J/MIL-J-83382C_11051/ Amen to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Posted July 6, 2022 Share #20 Posted July 6, 2022 Hi Picked this jacket up, wondering if someone is able to tell me anymore info especially re the number in the inside pocket, also is this vintage or more recent as tag is slightly different to the one in the first post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfixer Posted July 6, 2022 Share #21 Posted July 6, 2022 yours is a 2005 contract, cant help with the pocket number... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Posted July 6, 2022 Share #22 Posted July 6, 2022 Thanks for that, can i ask how you know its 2005 is it from SP0100-05?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfixer Posted July 6, 2022 Share #23 Posted July 6, 2022 21 minutes ago, House said: Thanks for that, can i ask how you know its 2005 is it from SP0100-05?? yes the 05 is the contract date...the date of manufacture could be plus or minus a year or so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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