Airborne-Hunter Posted October 14, 2013 Share #1 Posted October 14, 2013 Just picked this up. It came with some ww2 USMC stuff including a Kabar. Is this a theater made knife or one of those custom/private purchase bowie knives made by a specific individual? Any thoughts? No names, no markings anywhere. Thanks ABN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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doyler Posted October 14, 2013 Share #4 Posted October 14, 2013 Some times the Corpsman bolos were re-worked into bowies like this. Also seen some of the Austrailian made knives in this pattern or similiar to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted October 14, 2013 Share #5 Posted October 14, 2013 Should add if it was one of the air crew type survival bowies(like the Collins,Kinfolks,Case etc) the brass guard is gone and the grips were re-done.I would think on a US model you would see the makers mark or traces of it even if polished out. Many of the Austrailian made copies had Aluminum handles but some had wood as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKIPH Posted October 14, 2013 Share #6 Posted October 14, 2013 Airborne-Hunter- How long is the blade? It looks like one of the "Western" Bowies knives made in the 60s-70s, with the guard removed, and a replaced handle. SKIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sactroop Posted October 14, 2013 Share #7 Posted October 14, 2013 Skip, that was my first impression too. But as I looked at it I no-longer think so. The blade profile is wrong back at the convergence with the handle. Here a picture which will show it. This example is an early blade marked example. Around 1968 Western switched the stampings to the guard and stayed with that into the mid 70's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKIPH Posted October 14, 2013 Share #8 Posted October 14, 2013 Maybe the knife was a later model? Not sure. But, I'm still leaning towards a Western. Could have changed the blade some when they stopped stamping the name. I'm no expert on Western Bowies. SKIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozarkian Posted October 14, 2013 Share #9 Posted October 14, 2013 Were those Western Bowies actually carried in combat? I have one but I have never seen proof they were carried. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKIPH Posted October 14, 2013 Share #10 Posted October 14, 2013 A lot were Vietnam era. I know 5th Special Forces Group had presentation models they gave out. They sold them on Ft Bragg at the old Smoke Bomb Hill Book Store in the early 70s. But, I can't say I actually knew anyone who carried one in Vietnam, nor do I recall any photos. My guess, a lot were carried, SKIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozarkian Posted October 14, 2013 Share #11 Posted October 14, 2013 Thanks for the info SKIPH, I have seen one that was carried in Vietnam by a Security Policeman. I think the one I have was made in the mid 70's. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1SG_1st_Cav Posted October 14, 2013 Share #12 Posted October 14, 2013 I carried a Bowie Knife in Vietnam and it was stolen when I got back to the states along with a K-Bar still in the wrapper. Danny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sactroop Posted October 14, 2013 Share #13 Posted October 14, 2013 The first two pictures are from Frank's photo archive. The last one is from a friends personal collection while in country. These knives were private purchase items in almost all cases. They were usually no farther away than the PX in many cases, including the PX at Ft. Polk where the Army located "Tigerland". Skip, if the knife in the OP is a Western somebody put it to a grinder. I've got seven examples, (some of them are duplicates), of the W49 that cover the time frame of 64 to at least 72. I've studied the variations from 64 to 2006 when Camillus shut down. The blade profile doesn't show much variation through out production from Western, Western/Coleman, or Camillus. Ozarkian, if you can provide pictures of the Western you referred to above, complete with the marking, I think I can at least ball park the time of production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKIPH Posted October 14, 2013 Share #14 Posted October 14, 2013 I had one years ago that I got from a buddy in the mid-70s w/ a broken handle. I put a handle on it, but never carried it. Gave it to my team leader when I was in 7th SFGA. He loved it. I stuck to my MK2. SKIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozarkian Posted October 15, 2013 Share #15 Posted October 15, 2013 Thanks sactroop, I will get a picture of it tomorrow. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popcorn Posted February 15, 2014 Share #16 Posted February 15, 2014 Hi all. Just came across this thread. I have a near identical knife(with the guard) that also came with other items. I don't think these are Western W49s. The ricasso shape is very different. The knife has no markings appears chrome plated(there are small chips in the chrome that didn't show up in the pics) and the handle is varnished. I initially thought it was a Western knock off but after reading this I'm not so sure. Thoughts would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popcorn Posted February 15, 2014 Share #17 Posted February 15, 2014 pic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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popcorn Posted February 15, 2014 Share #22 Posted February 15, 2014 Here is a comparison to the Western W49. The one pictured is marked H which I think puts it in the mid '80s range. I've seen older/newer ones and the blade profile shows very little variance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted February 16, 2014 Share #23 Posted February 16, 2014 I have seen similar knives like this marked Pakistan but there quality is very poor. Matty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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