USMC_GAU-21 Posted December 8, 2009 Share #26 Posted December 8, 2009 Jon, Gordy, I agree with Jon, I think P-40N-5 as well. Because of the canopy profile. But Gordy you bring up very good points on the tail planes with the fillets. And, I did not think of the carb either good catch. Also the .50 cals instead of .30 cals. r/DRH Hey Jon wanna try again? What is this : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobrahistorian Posted December 8, 2009 Share #27 Posted December 8, 2009 That's an armed Temco TT-1 Pinto. Never seen one with weapons on it! Apparently of the 14 built, there are still 7 flying, 4 of them as "Super Pintos". Hopefully they don't have the same issues as their 4-wheeled namesake! J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMC_GAU-21 Posted December 8, 2009 Share #28 Posted December 8, 2009 Damn.......I bow to greatness. Yes that is the "Super Pinto" built by Aeronca/American Jet in the 70's. My Dad was the Chief Engineer for Aeronca/AJI when the aircraft was being looked at for the PAVE-COIN program and competition. Of the 14 delivered to the US Navy, they all went to Litchfield Park and were surplussed out of there to 2 major buyers. Aeronca and a outfit our of Arizona. Mike Dillion of Dillion re-loading fame, and weapons mfg for the US Gov't has one. Mike Couches of Oakland California had 3. Crashed one, flies one, and just sold the 3rd. ( I helped my dad in 1980 put Mikes extended range tanks on his wings.) Steve Synder owned one, but Steve was tragically killed in his F-86 a few years back. His was up for sale.....got $2 mil? And the other owners are out of Colorado and Indiana. Major differences being the swept tail, longer tail boom, and a J-85 vs, the J-69 the Navy trainer came with. Also the inlets tell you right away if you have the bigger J-85 in it. Only 4 of the 7 have J-85's. The tip tanks on this airplane are Cessna 310 "droop" tanks. This aircraft and one other aircraft are in the Philippine Airforce. After PAVE-COIN was canceled AJI sold the surviving 2 aircraft to them. They sit in Manila besides a hangar, moth balled. Like I said I bow to greatness!!!!! :thumbsup: r - Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Posted December 8, 2009 Share #29 Posted December 8, 2009 What a tuning for this Pinto! For the first time I see single-seat Pinto so heavily armed like COIN aircraft from Banana Republic. To whom it belongs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMC_GAU-21 Posted December 8, 2009 Share #30 Posted December 8, 2009 Gregory, This airplane was sold to the Philippine Air Force in the late 70's. Along with one other TT-1 "Super Pinto". I saw a picture dated in 1999 of them both at an Airbase in Manila, sitting besides a hangar non-operational. r - Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobrahistorian Posted December 8, 2009 Share #31 Posted December 8, 2009 Hey all, Ok, since we're talking P-40s here, I came across this one at the USAFHRA site. Here's a P-40K-10-CU with a long tail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobrahistorian Posted December 8, 2009 Share #32 Posted December 8, 2009 Here's a pair of Merlin-powered P-40Ls from the Steve O. Reno collection. I've actually got two shots of the near bird in my own collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobrahistorian Posted December 8, 2009 Share #33 Posted December 8, 2009 And a P-40E-1-CU (41-36504) modified with a K tail accompanied by an F and an L at Eagle Pass Army Airfield in 1944. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon B Posted December 21, 2009 Share #34 Posted December 21, 2009 BTW Jon,..That source that quoted that the RAAF got 168 Ms is rather wrong as we got 92 out of 94 sent Unless they added the P-40K-10s as part of the figure Basically, A29-204 to A29-205, then A29-300 inclusive to A29-389, and a further two sunk on a ship on route in the Caribean (with those two being P-40M-1s 43-5409 and 43-5436) with some four other undelivered RAAF Diverted P-40K-15s on the 29/01/43 in Carribean (ex Charleston) by U-Boat Listed is the RAAF Serial /Type and the USAAF serial of all M-1/M-5/M-10s and N1/-5s per the RAAF A29 series A29-204 P-40M-1 43-5411 A29-205 P-40M-1 43-5424 A29-300 P-40M-1 43-5415 A29-301 P-40M-1 43-5443 A29-302 P-40M-1 43-5408 A29-303 P-40M-1 43-5431 A29-304 P-40M-1 43-5425 A29-305 P-40M-1 43-5426 A29-306 P-40M-1 43-5430 A29-307 P-40M-1 43-5435 A29-308 P-40M-1 43-5441 A29-309 P-40M-1 43-5444 A29-310 P-40M-5 43-5508 A29-311 P-40M-5 43-5509 A29-312 P-40M-5 43-5510 A29-313 P-40M-5 43-5511 A29-314 P-40M-5 43-5512 A29-315 P-40M-5 43-5513 A29-316 P-40M-5 43-5514 A29-317 P-40M-5 43-5515 A29-318 P-40M-5 43-5516 A29-319 P-40M-5 43-5517 A29-320 P-40M-5 43-5636 A29-321 P-40M-5 43-5644 A29-322 P-40M-5 43-5645 A29-323 P-40M-5 43-5646 A29-324 P-40M-5 43-5648 A29-325 P-40M-5 43-5649 A29-326 P-40M-5 43-5653 A29-327 P-40M-5 43-5660 A29-328 P-40M-5 43-5663 A29-329 P-40M-5 43-5664 A29-330 P-40M-1 43-5434 A29-331 P-40M-1 43-5442 A29-332 P-40M-5 43-5638 A29-333 P-40M-5 43-5640 A29-334 P-40M-5 43-5647 A29-335 P-40M-5 43-5652 A29-336 P-40M-5 43-5657 A29-337 P-40M-1 43-5410 A29-338 P-40M-1 43-5412 A29-339 P-40M-1 43-5413 A29-340 P-40M-1 43-5414 A29-341 P-40M-1 43-5420 A29-342 P-40M-1 43-5422 A29-343 P-40M-1 43-5423 A29-344 P-40M-1 43-5432 A29-345 P-40M-10 43-5769 A29-346 P-40M-10 43-5773 A29-347 P-40M-10 43-5774 A29-348 P-40M-10 43-5775 A29-349 P-40M-10 43-5777 A29-350 P-40M-10 43-5780 A29-351 P-40M-10 43-5781 A29-352 P-40M-10 43-5785 A29-353 P-40M-10 43-5789 A29-354 P-40M-10 43-5798 A29-355 P-40M-5 43-5641 A29-356 P-40M-5 43-5654 A29-357 P-40M-5 43-5655 A29-358 P-40M-5 43-5656 A29-359 P-40M-5 43-5661 A29-360 P-40M-5 43-5662 A29-361 P-40M-5 43-5665 A29-362 P-40M-5 43-5668 A29-363 P-40M-5 43-5637 A29-364 P-40M-5 43-5639 A29-365 P-40M-10 43-5865 A29-366 P-40M-10 43-5866 A29-367 P-40M-10 43-5867 A29-368 P-40M-10 43-5868 A29-369 P-40M-10 43-5869 A29-370 P-40M-10 43-5870 A29-371 P-40M-10 43-5871 A29-372 P-40M-10 43-5872 A29-373 P-40M-10 43-5873 A29-374 P-40M-10 43-5874 A29-375 P-40M-10 43-5875 A29-376 P-40M-10 43-5876 A29-377 P-40M-10 43-5767 A29-378 P-40M-10 43-5768 A29-379 P-40M-10 43-5770 A29-380 P-40M-10 43-5771 A29-381 P-40M-10 43-5791 A29-382 P-40M-10 43-5806 A29-383 P-40M-10 43-5814 A29-384 P-40M-10 43-5877 A29-385 P-40M-10 43-5878 A29-386 P-40M-10 43-5879 A29-387 P-40M-10 43-5880 A29-388 P-40M-10 43-5881 A29-389 P-40M-10 43-5882 A29-3** P-40M-1 43-5409 Not delivered A29-3** P-40M-1 43-5436 Not delivered Those in the A29-400 series up to A29-500 serial are either P-40N-1s or P-40N-5s A29-400 P-40N-1 42-104813 A29-401 P-40N-1 42-104814 A29-402 P-40N-1 42-104815 A29-403 P-40N-1 42-104816 A29-404 P-40N-1 42-104817 A29-405 P-40N-1 42-104818 A29-406 P-40N-1 42-104819 A29-407 P-40N-1 42-104820 A29-408 P-40N-1 42-104821 A29-409 P-40N-1 42-104822 A29-410 P-40N-1 42-104823 A29-411 P-40N-1 42-104824 A29-412 P-40N-1 42-104825 A29-413 P-40N-1 42-104826 A29-414 P-40N-1 42-104827 A29-415 P-40N-5 42-104830 A29-416 P-40N-5 42-104831 A29-417 P-40N-5 42-104832 A29-418 P-40N-5 42-104833 A29-419 P-40N-5 42-104834 A29-420 P-40N-1 42-104634 A29-421 P-40N-1 42-104660 A29-422 P-40N-1 42-104661 A29-423 P-40N-1 42-104662 A29-424 P-40N-1 42-104663 A29-425 P-40N-1 42-104664 A29-426 P-40N-1 42-104665 A29-427 P-40N-1 42-104666 A29-428 P-40N-1 42-104667 A29-429 P-40N-1 42-104669 A29-430 P-40N-1 42-104670 A29-431 P-40N-1 42-104671 A29-432 P-40N-1 42-104672 A29-433 P-40N-1 42-104673 A29-434 P-40N-5 42-104969 A29-435 P-40N-5 42-105040 A29-436 P-40N-5 42-105041 A29-437 P-40N-5 42-105042 A29-438 P-40N-5 42-105044 A29-439 P-40N-5 42-105045 A29-440 P-40N-5 42-105046 A29-441 P-40N-5 42-105047 A29-442 P-40N-5 42-105049 A29-443 P-40N-1 42-104725 A29-444 P-40N-1 42-104726 A29-445 P-40N-1 42-104727 A29-446 P-40N-1 42-104728 A29-447 P-40N-1 42-104729 A29-448 P-40N-1 42-104730 A29-449 P-40N-1 42-104731 A29-450 P-40N-1 42-104732 A29-451 P-40N-1 42-104733 A29-452 P-40N-1 42-104734 A29-453 P-40N-1 42-104735 A29-454 P-40N-1 42-104736 A29-455 P-40N-1 42-104737 A29-456 P-40N-1 42-104738 A29-457 P-40N-1 42-104739 A29-458 P-40N-1 42-104740 A29-459 P-40N-1 42-104741 A29-460 P-40N-1 42-104742 A29-461 P-40N-5 42-105050 A29-462 P-40N-5 42-105051 A29-463 P-40N-5 42-105052 A29-464 P-40N-5 42-105054 A29-465 P-40N-5 42-105055 A29-466 P-40N-5 42-105056 A29-467 P-40N-5 42-105057 A29-468 P-40N-5 42-105059 A29-469 P-40N-5 42-105060 A29-470 P-40N-5 42-105061 A29-471 P-40N-5 42-105062 A29-472 P-40N-5 42-105063 A29-473 P-40N-1 42-104674 A29-474 P-40N-1 42-104675 A29-475 P-40N-1 42-104676 A29-476 P-40N-1 42-104677 A29-477 P-40N-1 42-104678 A29-478 P-40N-1 42-104679 A29-479 P-40N-1 42-104680 A29-480 P-40N-1 42-104681 A29-481 P-40N-1 42-104703 A29-482 P-40N-1 42-104704 A29-483 P-40N-1 42-104705 A29-484 P-40N-1 42-104706 A29-485 P-40N-1 42-104707 A29-486 P-40N-1 42-104708 A29-487 P-40N-1 42-104709 A29-488 P-40N-1 42-104710 A29-489 P-40N-1 42-104711 A29-490 P-40N-1 42-104712 A29-491 P-40N-1 42-104713 A29-492 P-40N-1 42-104714 A29-493 P-40N-1 42-104715 A29-494 P-40N-1 42-104716 A29-495 P-40N-1 42-104717 A29-496 P-40N-1 42-104718 A29-497 P-40N-1 42-104719 A29-498 P-40N-1 42-104720 A29-499 P-40N-1 42-104721 A29-500 P-40N-1 42-104722 Hope that straightens that little falsehood out per the quoted figure Heres a colour pic of P-40E-1 41-36504 with the red star and bar which puts it circa post July 43 Best Gordy ADF-Serials.com.au Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon B Posted December 21, 2009 Share #35 Posted December 21, 2009 Oh, heres a pic of A29-304. V-1710-73 engine no carburator bypass on P-40M-1s as shown on the attached Sorry if I'm dragging. Its that I had a Hard Drive failure a fortnight ago and I'm trying to catch up :think: I'll leave at that Thanks everyone Best Gordy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobrahistorian Posted December 21, 2009 Share #36 Posted December 21, 2009 Great stuff Gordy, keep it comin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haskell Posted January 7, 2010 Share #37 Posted January 7, 2010 Hello, it looks that there are some experts here on AVG. I have searched for AVG P-40 #81 without any success. Nothing mentioned in any rooster who the plane was assigned to or history. The only thing I know about it that it chrashed during training and then restored. One picture of it has I found and also seen it in a video about 'The Flying Tigers'. I would be very happy if there is some information about this aircraft. kindly Håkan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMC_GAU-21 Posted January 7, 2010 Share #38 Posted January 7, 2010 Gordy, Here is my source: In 1943, the scarcity of Packard Merlin engines necessitated that the Allison engine be reintroduced yet again into the P-40 production line. The result was the P-40M version. The P-40M was essentially similar to the P-40K-20-CU, apart from the use of the Allison V-1710-18 engine, rated at 1200 hp for takeoff and 1125 hp at 17,300 feet. The P-40M could be distinguished from the P-40K by the introduction of a cooling grill forward of the exhaust stubs. The P-40M was built solely for Lend-Lease, the contract being approved on August 24, 1942. The first P-40M appeared in November, 1942. Most of them went to the RAF, the RAAF, and the RNZAF as the Kittyhawk III. The type served with British Commonwealth forces in the Far East. A number were operated in Italy by No. 5 Squadron of the South African Air Force. The differences between the production blocks were as follows: The P-40M-1-CU had reinforced ailerons. The P-40M-5-CU had improved carburetor air filters and further aileron improvements. The P-40M-10-CU had revised undercarriage warning systems and fuel system changes Serials of the P-40M were as follows: 43-5403/5462 Curtiss P-40M-1-CU Warhawk 43-5463/5722 Curtiss P-40M-5-CU Warhawk 43-5723/6002 Curtiss P-40M-10-CU Warhawk The RAF serials for the 264 P-40Ms supplied to the RAF as Kittyhawk IIIs were FR779/FR872 and FS100/FS269. 168 P-40Ms were supplied to Australia as Kittyhawk IIIs under the serial numbers A29-300/389, A29-400/414, A29-420/434, A29-442/460, and A29-473/502. 34 P-40Ms went to New Zealand as serial numbers NZ3066/3073, NZ3075/3089, NZ3109/3119, and NZ3180 The P-40M equipped the No. 5 Squadron of the South African Air Force serving in Italy. 19 P-40Ms were transferred to Brazil. Sources: 1. War Planes of the Second World War, Fighters, Volume Four, William Green, Doubleday, 1964. 2. The American Fighter, Enzo Angelucci and Peter Bowers, Orion Books, 1987. 3. United States Military Aircraft since 1909, Gordon Swanborough and Peter M. Bowers, Smithsonian Institution Press, 1989. 4. Curtiss Aircraft, 1907-1947, Peter M. Bowers, Naval Institute Press, 1979. 5. The Curtiss P-40 Tomahawk, Ray Wagner, Aircraft in Profile, Volume 2, Doubleday, 1965. They were listed at the bottom of the post. It is from a fairly reputable P-40 site. But you have serial numbers so what do I know :thumbsup: r/Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_B Posted January 14, 2010 Share #39 Posted January 14, 2010 Hello, it looks that there are some experts here on AVG. I have searched for AVG P-40 #81 without any success. Nothing mentioned in any rooster who the plane was assigned to or history. The only thing I know about it that it chrashed during training and then restored. One picture of it has I found and also seen it in a video about 'The Flying Tigers'. I would be very happy if there is some information about this aircraft. kindly Håkan I am looking at a black and white photo reproduction of AVG Hawk #81, taken at Kunming, China, Spring 1942, taken by RT Smith. In the photo a Disney Tiger decal is present on the port side, and it was either heavily shellacked or there was fresh touch-up paint on the plane in the general area, but my guess would be that the decal was heavily shellacked It is not a great photograph reproduction and the tail number is too blurry to make out. My tail number and pilot reference does not list this plane at all; numerically it would be part of 3rd Squadron of course, but by the time the photo was taken, planes were shuffled among the squadrons. I would guess, if I had to guess, that this plane was a 'rehabilitated' plane I have another ref I can look in but it covers the AVG only briefly, maybe it has the plane in USAAF service, but I'm tired and I gotta hit the hay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haskell Posted January 25, 2010 Share #40 Posted January 25, 2010 I am looking at a black and white photo reproduction of AVG Hawk #81, taken at Kunming, China, Spring 1942, taken by RT Smith. In the photo a Disney Tiger decal is present on the port side, and it was either heavily shellacked or there was fresh touch-up paint on the plane in the general area, but my guess would be that the decal was heavily shellacked It is not a great photograph reproduction and the tail number is too blurry to make out. My tail number and pilot reference does not list this plane at all; numerically it would be part of 3rd Squadron of course, but by the time the photo was taken, planes were shuffled among the squadrons. I would guess, if I had to guess, that this plane was a 'rehabilitated' plane I have another ref I can look in but it covers the AVG only briefly, maybe it has the plane in USAAF service, but I'm tired and I gotta hit the hay Hello again, thanks for taking your time. Is this photo from a book or ? I will try to search more but if you find something,please post it here. kindly Håkan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_B Posted January 27, 2010 Share #41 Posted January 27, 2010 The photo reproduction is a small one in the Osprey book 'Colours and markings of the American Volunteer Group' The other reference I had was a book called 'Days of the Ching Bao', and the plane is not present in that book Once upon a time I was in contact with RT Smith's son Brad. Really nice guy, we discussed some photos. Unfortunately I don't have Brad's contact info any more, but it seems like most of RT Smith's photos I see are labeled 'RT Smith, courtesy of Brad Smith', and he'd be a good one to ask about that photo. I imagine on the original photo you'd be able to make out the tail number with a magnifying glass. Too bad I lost that contact info... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billl Posted February 7, 2011 Share #42 Posted February 7, 2011 I see Robert L. Scott mentioned in this thread. His book "God is My Co-pilot" was the first book about aviation that I ever read. (The second was "Samurai" by Saburo Sakai.) I stumbled over one of Gen. Scott's books and wrote to him, asking whether he could autograph it for me. He graciously autographed several books for me, and sent me a note or two. It was a thrill - even though it took place when I was over 35. A fine gentleman, and I am glad that he is remembered. I eventually was part owner of an aerial advertising company which flew 172 Cessnas pulling banners by day, and with lighted grids by night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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