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I'm fairly sure this belongs in this thread.

 

I purchased this shirt from Bob at Vintage Productions and its had a couple of other owners over the years. Bob was right when he said the pictures do not do it justice.

 

The shirt belonged to a Col. Serge Demyanenko. Col. Demyanenko served in Vietnam between '66 and '67 in an advisory role (I'm a little unsure of what he exactly did in Vietnam) and retired after 31 years of service as a Col. in Special Forces. He has written a book called "The Madness" which is a fiction piece but based on his life and experiences.

 

The shirt has direct embroidered rank and crossed rifles on the collars, US Army, senior jump wings, CIB on the left chest and on the right his name, ARVN qualification badge and early German "Picasso" wings, so called because apparently when the Bundeswehr was first created the members did not like the wings. Serge was awarded them in 1962 when stationed in Germany with the 1st Airborne battle Group.

 

A Black and Gold ranger tab is visible on the left shoulder, I can faintly make out the ghosting of a missing patch which was most likely a MACV SSI.

 

Over the years the Ranger Scroll from the right shoulder has disappeared but it was an in-country made one as Serge advised in the 4th Ranger Group and you can see the outline of the scroll and where the red thread has bled into the shirt. (be great to find a replacement scroll)

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'A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon'

 

Always looking for Vietnam War US Special Forces/MACV-SOG jungle shirts/uniforms and OG107 Shirts/uniforms.

 

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Ghost of ARVN Ranger Scroll on RHS and Ranger Tab and ghost of SSI on LHS

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'A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon'

 

Always looking for Vietnam War US Special Forces/MACV-SOG jungle shirts/uniforms and OG107 Shirts/uniforms.

 

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LH chest embroidery

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'A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon'

 

Always looking for Vietnam War US Special Forces/MACV-SOG jungle shirts/uniforms and OG107 Shirts/uniforms.

 

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RH chest embroidery

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'A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon'

 

Always looking for Vietnam War US Special Forces/MACV-SOG jungle shirts/uniforms and OG107 Shirts/uniforms.

 

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The following photo has been published dozens of times, including the back cover of Shelby Stanton's US Army Uniforms of the Vietnam War.

 

In addition to the helmet, Cpt. Devlin's uniform is the very definition of a "Christmas Tree Uniform". Before anybody responds to that, I am sure this is what he wore for parade and ceremony purposes, and his field uniform was far less ornate.

 

Also, we have a later uniform of another Ranger Advisor clearly showing his shoulder sleeve insignia and ARVN camo.

I know that man! Gerry is a GREAT guy, helped me find out about CPT David W. Bowman, ARVN BDQ advisor to the 44th with Gerry. Just a super guy, and roger he was and is legit. Great photo of him. Also spoke on COL Daniel Lord Baldwin, Gerry never ran into him but heard of him. He has a chapter in CSM Martins "Black Tigers" book on the BDQ. Great stuff.

 

Airborne!!!

 

-RICK


RICH "ABN325"

"You may be lost, but you are not forgotten. For those who have travelled far, to fight in foreign lands, know that the soldier's greatest comfort is to have his friends close at hand. In the heat of battle it ceases to be an idea for which we fight. Or a flag. Rather we fight for the man on our left, and we fight for the man on our right. And when armies are scattered and the empires fall away, all that remains is the memory of those precious moments that we spent side by side"

$$Looking to Buy$$ 82nd Airborne Memorabilia, 325th GIR and AIR, WW2 to present &Iraq & Afghan Militaria all kinds.

 

In memory Gavin L. Neighbor, KIA 10 June 2003, Baghdad, Iraq, 3-325th AIR, 82nd ABN DIV, TF FALCON

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RH chest embroidery

Excellent, I like that pattern BW Parachute Badge, it's the 3rd pattern.

 

Just for reference sake if we ever see West German Parachute Badges on 60s uniforms.

 

These were the 1st, a direct copy Oval and all of the U.S. Army type, worn only for a year or so, 1956-57.

 

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Followed by this 2nd pattern, a more traditional style, this 2nd pattern was again worn for only a year or so 1957-58

 

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Then came along this one, the one Demyanenko had, this the 3rd Pattern was worn from 1958 to 1966.

 

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And finaly the one still use today, 1966-present. Interestingly the 3rd pattern and the early version of this final pattern did not have a metal version, for example, 1960s into the early 70s Officer portraits of Graduates of the Command and Staff College at Leavenworth that have these badges, are seen in cloth and sewn on to their uniforms. The Metal version came out sometime in the mid 1970s I believe, certaily by 1979, early January 1980, because my Drill Sergeant at Ft Benning had the BW Parachute Badge, and when in Class As it was in a Metal form badge.

 

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Hi Patches, great stuff and great info thanks very much for the post. I really like the 1st pattern oval, very cool.

 

A little bit off topic but you wouldn't happen to have any info on Bolivian Ranger wings from the 1960s would you?

 

Cheers

 

Ryan


 

'A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon'

 

Always looking for Vietnam War US Special Forces/MACV-SOG jungle shirts/uniforms and OG107 Shirts/uniforms.

 

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Hi Patches, great stuff and great info thanks very much for the post. I really like the 1st pattern oval, very cool.

 

A little bit off topic but you wouldn't happen to have any info on Bolivian Ranger wings from the 1960s would you?

 

Cheers

 

Ryan

Gee Sorry I dont, I'm working off this book below, a 1979 book, it just has Bolivian Jump Wings in the section on Bolivia, no SF or Rangers badges for Bolivia are depicted, it's possible that Bolvian Rangers just wore the standard Parachute Badge.

 

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Hi Patches,

 

no worries at all, thanks very much. Any info on Bolivian Ranger wings is hard to come buy.

 

the attached is what I'm looking for info on.

 

cheers

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'A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon'

 

Always looking for Vietnam War US Special Forces/MACV-SOG jungle shirts/uniforms and OG107 Shirts/uniforms.

 

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Hi Patches,

 

no worries at all, thanks very much. Any info on Bolivian Ranger wings is hard to come buy.

 

the attached is what I'm looking for info on.

 

cheers

Wow interesting, I would call this a Ranger Badge rather than wings, even though it's a bird with outstretched wings :lol: What does the rest of the shirt look like? perhaps you can open up another topic here in uniforms on it.

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cheers patches, I'll PM you details as i feel I've taken this thread in a different direction already


 

'A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon'

 

Always looking for Vietnam War US Special Forces/MACV-SOG jungle shirts/uniforms and OG107 Shirts/uniforms.

 

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I have an original Newsweek magazine with an article and these pics of the SSG. Would you like me to post it? Scott

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Hi Scott,

 

sure thing mate.

 

cheers


 

'A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon'

 

Always looking for Vietnam War US Special Forces/MACV-SOG jungle shirts/uniforms and OG107 Shirts/uniforms.

 

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I will go dig it out and scan in the next couple days. I now have to travel back home to Oregon for my sons little daughters funeral

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Hi Scott,

 

Ok well when you are ready mate and condolences for your loss mate.

 

Regards

 

Ryan


 

'A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon'

 

Always looking for Vietnam War US Special Forces/MACV-SOG jungle shirts/uniforms and OG107 Shirts/uniforms.

 

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I think the Advisor in the b&w photo is CSM (ret) Mike Martin, who wrote a couple of books about the BDQ. I do not recall any women being assigned to any Bn in my area/time frame, but one Bn Cdr did have his wife with him all the time, and she wore the uniform, went to the field with them and everything. She later shot her husband to death for his philandering.

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I can't believe I just found this forum. I personally know Serge Demyanenko very well, and if you have any questions for him, I will be more than happy to ask him on everyone's behalf. If you are interested in returning the uniform to the original owner, I am more than happy to buy it off of you, as Serge often shares stories to me about his experience as a veteran, and his family would love it just as much.

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I can't believe I just found this forum. I personally know Serge Demyanenko very well, and if you have any questions for him, I will be more than happy to ask him on everyone's behalf. If you are interested in returning the uniform to the original owner, I am more than happy to buy it off of you, as Serge often shares stories to me about his experience as a veteran, and his family would love it just as much.

 

 

thank you for the offer, he certainly had an interesting career, would love to hear his stories. I moved his uniform on a year or so ago and i'm not 100% who has it now.


 

'A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon'

 

Always looking for Vietnam War US Special Forces/MACV-SOG jungle shirts/uniforms and OG107 Shirts/uniforms.

 

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Hey there

 

my last advisor ERDL jacket green dominant from the 3nd Ranger ARVN groups DSA 1969. This is an Small regular

 

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