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Purpose of Velcro Under the Collar on ACU's?


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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/ACU2004-06-14.jpg

 

It's to keep the collar out of the way of the OTV body armor - the collar is always worn 'down' when body armor is not being worn. The IOTV has helped the issue, so it's more of a 'non-issue' at this point, and you'll rarely see Soldiers wearing the collar up like that for two reasons:

 

1. Maneuver elements (infantry, armor, etc.) are issued the 'sexy shirt' from massif. This has no collar. It's essentially a t-shirt with ACU pattern arms:

http://blogs.reuters.com/afghanistan/files/2010/08/DSC_0655.JPG

 

2. Non-combat elements (staff, support, etc.) are also issued the massif shirt, but when going to the range, or any other activity involving the ACU jacket and body armor it's still more common to see people just wear the armor over the normal, folded collar.

http://usarmy.vo.llnwd.net/e2/c/images/2012/03/02/237281/original.jpg

 

Here's an image with both:

http://www.defense.gov/dodcmsshare/newsphoto/2007-03/hires_070324-N-7949W-420.jpg

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/ACU2004-06-14.jpg

 

It's to keep the collar out of the way of the OTV body armor - the collar is always worn 'down' when body armor is not being worn. The IOTV has helped the issue, so it's more of a 'non-issue' at this point, and you'll rarely see Soldiers wearing the collar up like that for two reasons:

 

1. Maneuver elements (infantry, armor, etc.) are issued the 'sexy shirt' from massif. This has no collar. It's essentially a t-shirt with ACU pattern arms:

http://blogs.reuters.com/afghanistan/files/2010/08/DSC_0655.JPG

 

2. Non-combat elements (staff, support, etc.) are also issued the massif shirt, but when going to the range, or any other activity involving the ACU jacket and body armor it's still more common to see people just wear the armor over the normal, folded collar.

http://usarmy.vo.llnwd.net/e2/c/images/2012/03/02/237281/original.jpg

 

Here's an image with both:

http://www.defense.gov/dodcmsshare/newsphoto/2007-03/hires_070324-N-7949W-420.jpg

Thanks for the information.

Grandson of Command Sergeant Major Max I Gray U.S Army

Also grandson of CWO-3 Arthur WillIam Seabury jr. USMC

 

 

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It was designed by someone behind a desk. Never seen it get used in my Infantry battalion by anyone, but yes it was meant to allow the collar to be stood up for protection. Mine were all sewed down because after a while the velcro would curl and make the uniform look sloppier than it was already. Seen a lot of guys remove the velcro to keep the collar flat. If your IBA/IOTV was fitted properly and broke in, it would not rub your neck. It was a whole new world when we got the ACS, way more comfortable but not as rugged.

 

I have seen the next rank being worn there, though it is not authorized. Never seen a mason patch as you can wear a mason ring as long as you not taking a DA Photo.

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That solid plastic velcro is the WORST! It EATS the fuzzy side of the velcro and ruins an otherwise good uniform within three months of wear. Also, the solid stuff doesn't stick as easily, so you really have to press down on pockets or patches to keep them on...someone tried to fix it when it wasn't broken. I refuse to buy uniforms or patches with it anymore - just a waste of money.

 

Does anyone have a picture of it?

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That solid plastic velcro is the WORST! It EATS the fuzzy side of the velcro and ruins an otherwise good uniform within three months of wear. Also, the solid stuff doesn't stick as easily, so you really have to press down on pockets or patches to keep them on...someone tried to fix it when it wasn't broken. I refuse to buy uniforms or patches with it anymore - just a waste of money.

 

Does anyone have a picture of it?

here you go

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Grandson of Command Sergeant Major Max I Gray U.S Army

Also grandson of CWO-3 Arthur WillIam Seabury jr. USMC

 

 

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The velcro makes trying to make the collar look good on the hanger a pain I can only imagine how great it is to wear lol. The older velcro was hard enough but the plastic is even worse. Thanks for all the comments guys.

Grandson of Command Sergeant Major Max I Gray U.S Army

Also grandson of CWO-3 Arthur WillIam Seabury jr. USMC

 

 

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