Jump to content

Recommended Posts

I am not aware of any Airborne element assigned/attached to the 197th Inf Bde. The picture of the "Airborne troops" running from the opened parachutes are probably stand-ins from the Brigade for the photo shoot. There was an element of the 1/29th Inf called Bravo Rangers whose mission was to provide OPFOR for the Ranger School but I don't think they were Airborne. (Ranger in name only).

 

In 1981 the 197th Bde was deploying to NTC and they needed jumpers so the Air Force could get mission training and pay for the flight. Since the Pathfinder Committee was on cycle break they took all of us Pathfinder instructors and put two jumpers per plane and we jumped into the NTC. Great jump and then they took us to Las Vegas that night and we flew out commercial in the morning back to Benning. AND we got TDY pay ... whata boondoggle!

 

Interesting note on the Ranger Training pictures. The Ranger with the mustache was in Alaska with me in the early 70s. I believe his name was Hagle (I may be wrong but it's been over 40 years). He graduated Honor Graduate in AIT and was promoted to SP/4. Then he graduated Honor Graduate from Airborne School and was promoted to SGT. Then he got Honor Graduate from Ranger School and made Staff Sergeant and was assigned as an Instuctor. He was an E6 in Alaska.

 

BEAR

Link to post
Share on other sites
  • Replies 99
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Thanks for your detailed and intersting reply Bear, I knew since you had a Benning conection back in them days you would know. The Bravo Rangers, I thought they were aggessors for the Ranger Department, wasn't sure, we had one guy up in Alaska in my company 4/9th at one time who was one, but I can't now remember if he was Jump Qualified,(for me it's been less time than you, slightly over 30years :lol: ) probably not, as I think he would of been in Charlie Airborne, rather than Alpha, though he might of been off Jump Status, in any event, thanks again.

Link to post
Share on other sites

post-70300-0-71426700-1381572755.jpg This is a booklet from the 1st/29th INF which was part of TSB at Ft.Benning in 1973-74. It was my old unit and we went back and forth to the 197th INF BDE a couple of times during that period. Our unit had companies from all of the different branches and supported all sorts of educational/training scenarios .Oh to be that young again...but not as foolish!

Link to post
Share on other sites

So the 1/29th was assigned to the 197th but attached to TSB to support the school. Was C Co on jump status or just Ranger (there were LEG Rangers in those days)? The 1st and 2nd Ranger Bn. didn't come into existence until 1974.

 

When I was a Pathfinder instructor (78-83) we received all our vehicle, medical and driver support from the 197th. At that time there were no Airborne elements at all within the 197th.

Link to post
Share on other sites

I think C Company's role was filled by C Battery 83rd Artillery Bear, check out the unit designators on the rear area left of the heavy SP piece.

 

USIA

1-29 INF

83 FA (we can't see the C in front of 83 FA

 

 

Interesting stuff there 335th.

 

 

Found this site on C Co 75th Rangers, it seems it had a direct linage to the C Co 75th Rangers in Vietnam, and was active prior to the activation of the battalions, were I sure once this occured in 1974, C Co 75th Rangers was inactivated.

 

http://e20-c75th-rangers-association.org/forums/archive/index.php?t-3245.html

 

Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 2 weeks later...

post-70300-0-46654000-1382487011.jpg For those who may have been in C Co./75th Rangers at Ft Benning from 1973 through 74, here are some pics from the unit yearbook. The first is Cpt Petrie. He was the CO until later in 74 when he rotated out and Cpt Robert Howard took over.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Great group of photos 338, we see the unit sign C Company Airborne Ranger 1BN 29th Infantry, yet we see the guidon is C 75. Can you clarify, what was it's official title Co C 1st Battalion 29th Infantry or Co C 75th Infantry (Rangers)? Also we then take it that the C Co Rangers was the C Company of the 1/29 Inf rather than C Battery 83rd FA, would this be correct?

Link to post
Share on other sites

As far as I recall they were always known as Charlie Co./ 75th Rangers. They and Charlie Battery/ 83rd Field Arty were both a regular part of the 1/29th . Remember that the 29th was involved in many training aspects of the regular and reserve units, so it had to be very diverse in its make-up. I think that both units probably liked to leave out the reference to the leg aspect 29th INF.whenever they could and the upper echlon seemed not to mind.

Link to post
Share on other sites

As far as I recall they were always known as Charlie Co./ 75th Rangers. They and Charlie Battery/ 83rd Field Arty were both a regular part of the 1/29th . Remember that the 29th was involved in many training aspects of the regular and reserve units, so it had to be very diverse in its make-up. I think that both units probably liked to leave out the reference to the leg aspect 29th INF.whenever they could and the upper echlon seemed not to mind.

As of April 1968 the Dollar Ninety Seven had two other Maneuver Battalions, the 5th Battalion 31st Infantry and the 1st Battalion 58th Infantry + E Co 21st Infantry (LRRP?). Were these two Battalions still part of the 197th Inf Bde when you were there? if so were these then the Brigades Tactical units, while the 1/29 was school support.

Link to post
Share on other sites

During my time,and when we were a part of the 197th, the Bde was composed of the 3rd/7th INF, 1/58th INF, 2/69th ARM as well as other units that I can't recall ( 40 years ago!) We,1/29th were transfered to The School Brigade in later 1973 until late 74 when we went back to the 197th

Link to post
Share on other sites

During my time,and when we were a part of the 197th, the Bde was composed of the 3rd/7th INF, 1/58th INF, 2/69th ARM as well as other units that I can't recall ( 40 years ago!) We,1/29th were transfered to The School Brigade in later 1973 until late 74 when we went back to the 197th

Thank you 338th.

 

3rd of the 7th, 1st of the 58th, and the 1st of the 29th, I guess that was the Brigade line up when I was at Benning doing my Basic and AIT, early Jan-Early Apr 1980 and up to the point of the change in 1983 with the new Regimental System. With the 5th of the 31st, I find, that it being such a high CARS numbered Battalion, was inactivated during the Vietnam draw down, and with the return of the colors of the 3rd of the 7th to Benning in October 1970 was reflagged as the 3rd Battalion 7th Infantry. Remembering that this was a unit in the 199th Infantry Brigade (sep) which was formed at Benning in 1966

Link to post
Share on other sites

Getting back on the recruiting theme... I posted these on another thread on Germany in the Cold War...

 

Note how the very clean GI's do not seem to be bothered in the least that their path has been blocked by sheep and are more than happy to help the shepherd...

 

Yep... that is just how it was! LOL!

Army Europe Cover small cover.JPG

Army Europe Cover small.JPG

Gil Burket
Omaha, NE
Specializing in Fakes and Reproductions
of the Vietnam War

burkcats@hotmail.com

 

"One is easily fooled by that which one loves."

 

Moliere: Tartuffe

 

donation2017.gif

donation2007.gifdonation2008.gifdonation2009.gifdonation2010.gifdonation2011.gif
donation2012.gifdonation2013.gifdonation2014.gifdonation2015.gifdonation2016.gif

donation2017.gifdonation2018.gifdonation2019.gifdonation2020.gif


Link to post
Share on other sites

More happy, smiling troops...probably all thinking about hitting the town on the weekend for a bratwurst and a beer or two...

Army Europe headgear 1.JPG

Army Europe headgear 2.JPG

Gil Burket
Omaha, NE
Specializing in Fakes and Reproductions
of the Vietnam War

burkcats@hotmail.com

 

"One is easily fooled by that which one loves."

 

Moliere: Tartuffe

 

donation2017.gif

donation2007.gifdonation2008.gifdonation2009.gifdonation2010.gifdonation2011.gif
donation2012.gifdonation2013.gifdonation2014.gifdonation2015.gifdonation2016.gif

donation2017.gifdonation2018.gifdonation2019.gifdonation2020.gif


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.