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I thought I had these down as Maroon when I looked at them earlier. But looking at them now I see Purple. So am I over analyzing the situation. Are these just very dark Maroon??

 

So I've got Medical Corps (Checkered) & what (Solid) ??

 

Scott

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Curiouser and curiouser! We keep turning up overseas caps with coloured braiding which does not appear in any of the known lists!

 

BRANCH - MAIN COLOR / SECONDARY COLOR (If Any)

  • Adjutant General's Department (to 1944) - Dark Blue / Scarlet Red
  • Adjutant General's Department (1944 on) - Dark Blue / White
  • Army Air Corps - Ultramarine Blue / Golden Orange
  • Armored Center and Units - Green / White
  • Cavalry - Yellow
  • Chaplins - Black
  • Chemical Warfare - Colbalt Blue / Golden Yellow
  • Coastal Artillery - Scarlet Red
  • Commissioned Officers - Gold / Black
  • Detached Enlisted Personnel - Green
  • Engineer Corps - Scarlet Red / White
  • Finance Department - Silver Grey / Golden Yellow
  • General Grade Officers - Gold
  • General Staff Corps - Gold / Black
  • Inactive Reserves - Brown / White
  • Infantry - Light Blue
  • Inspector General Department (to 1944) - Dark Blue / Light Blue
  • Inspector General Department (1944 on) - Dark Blue / White
  • Judge Advocate General Department - Dark Blue / White
  • Medical Department - Maroon Red / White
  • Military Intelligence - Golden Yellow / Purple
  • Military Police - Yellow / Green
  • Militia Bureau - Dark Blue
  • Ordnance Department - Crimson Red / Yellow
  • USMA Permanent Professors - Scarlet Red / Silver Grey
  • Quartermasters Corps - Buff Yellow
  • Signal Corps - Orange / White
  • Specialist's Reserve - Brown / Golden Yellow
  • Tank Destroyer Units - Golden Orange / Black
  • Transportation Corps - Brick Red / Golden Yellow
  • Warrant Officers (to 1944) - Brown
  • Warrant Officers (1944 on) - Silver / Black
  • Women's Auxillary Army Corps (1942) - Old Gold / Moss Green
  • Women's Army Corps (1943 on) - Old Gold / Moss Green

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Scott,

 

According to the book, "Government Issue, U.S. Army European Theater of Operations Collector's Guide", Purple Service Piping represents the National Guard Bureau.

 

Hope that helps or a least gives you a shove in the right direction.

 

John


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Ahhhh...a notable omission from the list above. You might be on to something there...well done!


"We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender!"

 

Winston Churchill

" Life is what happens to you when you're busy making other plans."

John Winston Lennon

 

 

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"We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender!"

 

Winston Churchill

" Life is what happens to you when you're busy making other plans."

John Winston Lennon

 

 

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"The history of gunfighting fails to record a single fatality resulting from a quick noise...speed's fine, but accuracy is final." William (Bill) H. Jordan, 1965

 

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Scott,

 

According to the book, "Government Issue, U.S. Army European Theater of Operations Collector's Guide", Purple Service Piping represents the National Guard Bureau.

 

Hope that helps or a least gives you a shove in the right direction.

 

John

 

 

Thanks John, another reference book I need to add to my ever growing library.

 

I've read elsewhere that National Guard was Dark Blue. Adds a little more mystery.

 

I'm wondering if the Purple & White checkered may be a National Guard BOS? Maybe NG Medical, Signal, Engineer ?

 

The search continues.........


"The history of gunfighting fails to record a single fatality resulting from a quick noise...speed's fine, but accuracy is final." William (Bill) H. Jordan, 1965

 

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Braiding came in a number of styles...checkered, striped, flecked, solid, candy-twist etc. This can have an effect on how the colour combinations actually look...plus whatever fading might have occurred over the years. For example...look at this AAF piping with a small golden-orange fleck. It looks quite different from the candy twist variety.

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"We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender!"

 

Winston Churchill

" Life is what happens to you when you're busy making other plans."

John Winston Lennon

 

 

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Scott,

 

According to the book, "Government Issue, U.S. Army European Theater of Operations Collector's Guide", Purple Service Piping represents the National Guard Bureau.

 

Hope that helps or a least gives you a shove in the right direction.

 

John

 

Now I'm starting to question this. Everything I've found shows the Militia Bureau which became the National Guard Bureau as having dark blue piping.

 

And as I understand it, the above noted book has an error regarding yellow/green piping, listing it as armored instead of military police. Now I'm wondering if the purple piping might be an error also (?)

 

Very confused.... :unsure:

 

Sabrejet can figure it out when he gets them...good luck bro!


"The history of gunfighting fails to record a single fatality resulting from a quick noise...speed's fine, but accuracy is final." William (Bill) H. Jordan, 1965

 

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Any date on the caps?

Military Government & Civil Affairs used purple/white, OFFICIALLY adopting the branch colors in 1956. (Not sure what was used prior to that, but the branch/assigment existed prior to that time.)

 

Does anyone know what color the CIC branch used? Intelligence began using yellow/purple in 1936, so it wouldn't be a stretch for an associated offspring to use purple (and cavalry was already using yellow).

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I'm wondering if the Purple & White checkered may be a National Guard BOS? Maybe NG Medical, Signal, Engineer ?[/size]

 

The search continues.........

There is no insignia or branch color differences between active service, reserve, or Guard branches. The colors are the same for all 3 components.

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well, this piping should be for Nurse corps!
they used this all maroon color as piping since 1941 :D

GS

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Always looking for BLUE DRESS ARMY UNIFORMS (1936-1950)

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Well here's one with Purple Piping, this posted by member easterneagle87 recently, a School one, will let him add more if he's sees this (Trying PMing him to get him to post this, but he does not exempt PMs)

 

Item IDed by Wake1941 as a Garrison Cap of the Pennsylvania Military Academy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_defunct_military_academies_in_the_United_States#P

 

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