seanmc1114 Posted June 12, 2013 Author Share #101 Posted June 12, 2013 Here's an interesting one. Per the "Stars & Stripes" website where I found this picture: "South Korea, November, 1962: During a visit to the 1st Cavalry Division area, Secretary of Commerce Luther Hodges, right, receives a frontline briefing on the equipment used by soldiers at the Demilitarized Zone from Lt. Col. S.Y. Kennedy, Jr., 9th Cavalry commanding officer." I can't make out what, if any, number is on the Armored triangle worn on the LTC's chest. I guess at the time the 1st Cavalry Division was stationed in Korea, the 9th was an armored cavalry unit. Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atb Posted June 12, 2013 Share #102 Posted June 12, 2013 Here's an interesting one. Per the "Stars & Stripes" website where I found this picture: "South Korea, November, 1962: During a visit to the 1st Cavalry Division area, Secretary of Commerce Luther Hodges, right, receives a frontline briefing on the equipment used by soldiers at the Demilitarized Zone from Lt. Col. S.Y. Kennedy, Jr., 9th Cavalry commanding officer." I can't make out what, if any, number is on the Armored triangle worn on the LTC's chest. I guess at the time the 1st Cavalry Division was stationed in Korea, the 9th was an armored cavalry unit. Anyone? Look at the uniform posted in post #57. The armor triangle has "RCN." It is LTC Kennedy's OG wool shirt and trousers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanmc1114 Posted June 12, 2013 Author Share #103 Posted June 12, 2013 Look at the uniform posted in post #57. The armor triangle has "RCN." It is LTC Kennedy's OG wool shirt and trousers. Thanks for the reply. It's interesting that on his shirt he wore the armor triangle above his nametape and on the field jacket above his U.S. Army tape. I wonder if it was worn like that at the same time or the practice changed at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanmc1114 Posted June 13, 2013 Author Share #104 Posted June 13, 2013 Gen. Patton wearing the I Armored Corps patch on his chest at the Desert Warfare Training Center - early 1942. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrei Posted June 25, 2013 Share #105 Posted June 25, 2013 Currently on eBay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrei Posted June 25, 2013 Share #106 Posted June 25, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanmc1114 Posted July 1, 2013 Author Share #107 Posted July 1, 2013 7th Infantry Division soldier in Korea circa 1966 wearing an armor triangle with what appears to be the numeral 73. I believe that would be for the 1st Battalion 73rd Armor. http://fortbeavers.tripod.com/id26.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanmc1114 Posted July 1, 2013 Author Share #108 Posted July 1, 2013 72nd Tank Battalion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted July 2, 2013 Share #109 Posted July 2, 2013 72nd Tank Battalion? Looks like a big solitary T on the Yellow, I saved to documents so I could really zoom in on it, and that's what it appears to be, a T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted August 10, 2013 Share #110 Posted August 10, 2013 Brigadier General Ernest Harmon on maneuvers in South Carolina early during his first stint as Commanding General of 2nd Armored Division (which he commanded twice: July 1942 - April 1943 and September 1944 - January 1945). Harmon.jpg Here he is again Wailuna, this time as a Major General, date and place, unfortunately not givin, but seeing that it seems WARM, my guess is North Africa circa late 1942 till Harmon left command of the 2nd Armd Div in April 1943 to take over the 1st Armd Div. @Wailuna, this photo of the then BG Harmon was he in fact the Asst Div Commander, or one of the Combat Command COs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wailuna Posted August 11, 2013 Share #111 Posted August 11, 2013 @Wailuna, this photo of the then BG Harmon was he in fact the Asst Div Commander, or one of the Combat Command COs? Harmon was promoted to Brig. Gen. (AUS) March 15, 1942, while he was serving under Maj. Gen. Jacob Devers’ Chief of Staff (and as his de facto deputy commanding general) of the Armored Force at Ft. Knox. On July 31, 1942, Harmon assumed command of 2nd Armored Division at Ft. Benning, replacing Maj. Gen. Willis D. Crittenberger who had assumed command of III Armored Corps at Ft. Polk on July 7th. Harmon had been handpicked for promotion to brigadier general by Lt. Gen. Leslie J. McNair, Commanding General of Army Ground Forces, and he was destined for early command of an armored division by virtue of his relationship with generals Devers and McNair. In view of the above timeline and the brisk tempo of moving officers picked for higher command into their chosen assignments, it doesn’t seem likely that the higher powers had any reason for Harmon to spend time as a subordinate commander in the division, particularly as Crittenberger was long gone before Harmon assumed command. As for this new picture of Maj. Gen. Harmon, he was promoted August 9, 1942, while still in command of 2nd Armored Division in North Africa. Indeed, it looks as if he might be wearing the same coveralls and scarf in both pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted August 11, 2013 Share #112 Posted August 11, 2013 Thank you Wailuna for ironing out the rough spots. Yes he does indeed look like he's wearing the same coveralls in that second photo, AND as you noticed probably the same neck scarf too, must of been a special scarf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Andrews Posted August 11, 2013 Share #113 Posted August 11, 2013 The web gear that you see Gen Ridgway wearing through WWII was the SAME, never changed, including the frag grenade. AND he wore the exact same stuff in KOREA. The rig used to be displayed at the 82nd Museum at Bragg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted August 12, 2013 Share #114 Posted August 12, 2013 Another one of the 4th Armd Div as worn by this unit on the Right Side, with the White Name Tap worn on the left under the U.S.ARMY Tape. A most interesting one as we see the son of one General and possibly a second. Capt R.D. Snyder, Lt Henry W. Meetze, SFC Joe E.Marshall, Lt Thomas W.Herren Jr, Maj John F. Rose (Ft Hood Skeet Tourney Winners- Dec 1956) Thomas W. Herren Jr second from the right is the son of Thomas W.Herren of WWII Trailblazer Division Fame, Herren Junior is West Point 1955, and retired as a Lieutenant Colonel in 1976?, his brother John D. Herren (Not Pictured) also was also a graduate of The Point, and a career officer, and retired as a Full Colonel. John D was a lot younger than Junior, and was in the 1st Cav Div in Vietnam as Captain by 1965, and was Co B 1st Battalion 7th Cavarly's CO in 1965-66 to include X-Ray. Major John F. Rose, far right in Class As, is he the son of Maurice Rose??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanmc1114 Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share #115 Posted October 26, 2013 Major General Bruce Magruder, commander of the 1st Armored Division from 1940 to 1942 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanmc1114 Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share #116 Posted November 21, 2013 Brigadier General Howard Peckham wearing the 12th Armored Division SSI at Fort Knox, KY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanmc1114 Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share #117 Posted November 22, 2013 MG George S. Patton wearing the 2nd Armored Division SSI on his pocket during the Louisiana Maneuvers in 1941. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wailuna Posted December 15, 2013 Share #118 Posted December 15, 2013 2nd Battle Group, 4th Cavalry Regiment, 1st Cavalry Division, Korea, ca. 1957: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted December 15, 2013 Share #119 Posted December 15, 2013 2nd Battle Group, 4th Cavalry Regiment, 1st Cavalry Division, Korea, ca. 1957: Pope 2nd BG 4th Cav. 1st Cav. Div. Korea ca. 1957.jpg Interesting, as the 2nd BG 4th Cav was an Infantry unit at that time, I wonder why the Triangle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atb Posted December 15, 2013 Share #120 Posted December 15, 2013 Didn't the Battle Groups have an assigned Tank Company? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wailuna Posted December 15, 2013 Share #121 Posted December 15, 2013 Interesting, as the 2nd BG 4th Cav was an Infantry unit at that time, I wonder why the Triangle. Didn't the Battle Groups have an assigned Tank Company? Yes, re. patches=> 2/4 Cav. was organized as Infantry when assigned to 1st Cav. Div. ca. 1957/65. No, re. atb=> The Pentomic ROCID concept consolidated tanks in a separate battalion at division level; 3rd Tank Bn., 40th Armor Regiment, had that assignment in 1st Cav. Div. So, why was that soldier wearing a 4th Cav. DI and an Armor triangle at the same time? Maybe his tank was parked in a 2/4 Cav. motor pool and he got better treatment by wearing the same DI as the motor sgt. (Seen somewhere: A pix. of 40th AR DI being worn with 1st CD patch and unnumbered Armor triangle....where is it...where is it?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wailuna Posted December 16, 2013 Share #122 Posted December 16, 2013 ...Seen somewhere: A pix. of 40th AR DI being worn with 1st CD patch and unnumbered Armor triangle....where is it...where is it? Here it is! Lt. Col. Lawrence H. Johnson was XO and later CO of 3rd Tank Battalion, 40th Armor Regiment in Korea ca. 1961/62. For members of the Forum around long enough to remember the inimitable CptCav, this is his dad. Ever the complete cavalry scout, CptCav remains on eternal watch and always alert to the smallest detail. In this spirit, he has helpfully corrected my misstatement that there were no tanks in Infantry Battle Group. Indeed, the Battle Group Headquarters and Headquarters Company (TOE 7-12D) included a Recon Platoon with a tank section of two light tanks and his opinion is that Tanker Pope was a tank crewman in the 2/4 Cav. Recon Platoon, hence the 4th Cav. DI and his Armor triangle…and atb was on the right track after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted December 16, 2013 Share #123 Posted December 16, 2013 Yes indeed, I too was of the thought the Tank Company in a Infantry unit went the way of the Dodo Bird after 1957, but as we see it was still there, in a smaller size in the new Battle Group. Section 4 of this FM covers it. http://www.cgsc.edu/carl/docrepository/FM7_19.pdf The tanks used were the M41 Walker Bulldogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wailuna Posted December 18, 2013 Share #124 Posted December 18, 2013 Here is another 3rd Tank Bn. officer wearing the Armor triangle over his right shirt pocket, a practice reliably reported to have been battalion S.O.P. when OG-108 field shirts were worn as a winter parade uniform. Reason: Ribbons, CIBs, wings, etc were worn over the left shirt pocket when battalion was on parade and for other ceremonies, as appropriate. Thanks, CptCav.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted December 18, 2013 Share #125 Posted December 18, 2013 Here is another 3rd Tank Bn. officer wearing the Armor triangle over his right shirt pocket, a practice reliably reported to have been battalion S.O.P. when OG-108 field shirts were worn as a winter parade uniform. Reason: Ribbons, CIBs, wings, etc were worn over the left shirt pocket when battalion was on parade and for other ceremonies, as appropriate. Capt. Jones 3rd TB ca. 1961.jpg Thanks, CptCav.... Old Bill.jpg Great photo, love the helmet, clean with unusal size bars, was CPT Jones B Company 3/40 Armor's Old Man or was he Staff do you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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