westernfed Posted July 10, 2013 Share #1 Posted July 10, 2013 Just won this auction on ebay, they said it was a chaplain's assistants coat, based on the motto which was used by the chaplain's corps and also the 108 General Hospital. I have searched both but have not been able to find the patch associated to either association. it is located on the left sleeve cuff, the coat also has an CIB and infantry collar disc's. Anyway I am wondering if it is a separate infantry company/battalion/regiment? Any thoughts? usually I wait till I get the jacket in to post but the suspense is killing me! Thanks Ryan Link to post Share on other sites
westernfed Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share #2 Posted July 10, 2013 Here is a pic of the whole coat: Link to post Share on other sites
Patchcollector Posted July 10, 2013 Share #3 Posted July 10, 2013 I found this,a different design,but it has the same motto,For God and Country" High Flight Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth And danced the skies on laughter-silver wings; Sunward I've climbed and joined the tumbling mirth Of sun-split clouds - and done a hundred things You have not dreamed of - wheeled and soared and swung High in the sunlit silence. Hovering there I've chased the shouting wind along and flung My eager craft through footless halls of air. Up, up the long delirious, burning blue I've topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace, where never lark, or even eagle flew; and while, with silent, lifting mind I've trod The high untrespassed sanctity of space, Put out my hand, and touched the face of God. John Gillespie Magee, Jr. June 9, 1922 – December 11, 1941 " And each man stands with his face in the light of his own drawn sword. Ready to do what a hero can." - Elizabeth Barrett Browning Don't let the B@stards wear you down -"Vinegar" Joe Stillwell Reasonable people adapt themselves to the world.Unreasonable people attempt to adapt the world to themselves.All progress, therefore, depends on unreasonable people. George Bernard Shaw " Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining" , Fletcher,from the movie "The outlaw Josey Wales" Link to post Share on other sites
Bearmon Posted July 10, 2013 Share #4 Posted July 10, 2013 Chaplains Corps or 108th general Hospital it is listed on TIOC Link to post Share on other sites
westernfed Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share #5 Posted July 10, 2013 what is TIOC? Thanks Ryan Link to post Share on other sites
Bocage Posted July 10, 2013 Share #6 Posted July 10, 2013 Yeah that for the chaplains in the us army. I checked out boy scouts programs, a south african regiment and american an foreign universities with the same motto, but to no avail... Could this be an artillery unit's crest?? Because of the colours, I mean... Puzzling... In my patch collection I mainly focus on World War Two to early post-WW2 Divisional Shoulder Sleeve Insignia | Always buying 94th Infantry Division WW2 items, books, photos, patches and post-WW2 veteran's reunion items. | Selling and/or trading my german militaria collection | All pictures are taken by me and objects shown are part of my collection, unless stated otherwise | It's okay to use the pictures for non-commercial purposes (eg. study, reference, etc.) | 94th Infantry Division Historical Society Lifetime Member | 29th Infantry Division Historical Society Member | ASMIC Member | Join ASMIC today via: https://www.asmic.org/join.aspx Make sure to like 94th Infantry Division Books on Facebook All the best!Bocage Link to post Share on other sites
westernfed Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share #7 Posted July 10, 2013 I am wondering if it might be a patch design that was unauthorized or never adopted. It being on the cuff and all I am assuming it was a smaller unit designation of some type. Ryan Link to post Share on other sites
Bearmon Posted July 10, 2013 Share #8 Posted July 10, 2013 what is TIOC? Thanks Ryan Sorry typed too quick TIOH The Institute Of Heraldry has the mottos and to which units they belong Link to post Share on other sites
Bearmon Posted July 10, 2013 Share #9 Posted July 10, 2013 looks like it is the 108th General Hospital: http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/2358-nurse-photo-6th-cav/ post #5 Link to post Share on other sites
westernfed Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share #10 Posted July 10, 2013 I KNEW IT WOULD BE ON HERE!!!!! thanks for confirming what it is! do you think patients wore this badge for some reason? just trying to figure out why an infantrymen would have it on his coat (that is if the coat was not put together) any thoughts? Ryan Link to post Share on other sites
firefighter Posted July 10, 2013 Share #11 Posted July 10, 2013 Very cool.Wonder why an Infantryman, CIB, would have a 108th General Hospital patch? ASMIC #1098 Link to post Share on other sites
vzemke Posted July 11, 2013 Share #12 Posted July 11, 2013 Congrats on a great, hard to find insignia. Interesting you were able to win It with no idea what it was, as there was some decent completion on that auction. As for why it would be on an infantry jacket, we will probably never know. I doubt it would be worn by patients, but maybe. It's in the "wrong" place for a DI, which is what I believe this actually is. -Vance Follow me on Facebook @zemkecollectables Link to post Share on other sites
vzemke Posted July 11, 2013 Share #13 Posted July 11, 2013 Correction, I see In the other thread that this insignia was worn on the cuff. Either way, if bet the wearer of this was assigned to the hospital to fill some sort of banch immaterial role after spending some time on the line and earning a CIB. Follow me on Facebook @zemkecollectables Link to post Share on other sites
westernfed Posted July 11, 2013 Author Share #14 Posted July 11, 2013 Vzemke, Thanks for the congrats, I was thinking maybe the patch on the cuff was used to allow access into the hospital or something, since it was in Paris I am assuming they would give patients who were going through reabilitation passes into the city. but that is just speculation at this point. I am a sucker for cuff patches, I picked up a airborne coat a few years ago with a small parachute attatched to the cuff and that got my interest up in cuff patches on WWII US uniforms. Also after many hours looking at coats on here, ebay and other places I have trainied myself to recongnize unique items even if I dont neccessarly know the Identification. Hopefully when I get the coat in it will give up a few more secerets I will let you guys know what I find out when I get it in. Take care Ryan Link to post Share on other sites
Teamski Posted July 11, 2013 Share #15 Posted July 11, 2013 That is what makes this site so awesome! I would have never solved a patch like that on my own. Well done! -Ski In Memory Of......Pte Harold Griffiths, 1805, 1/6th Manchester Regt, KIA June 4th, 1915 in GallipoliCpl Isaac Judges, 40494, 6th East Yorkshire Regt, KIA October 3rd, 1917 in YpresMay they rest in peace..... MSgt - USAF Retired Link to post Share on other sites
westernfed Posted July 24, 2013 Author Share #16 Posted July 24, 2013 Everyone, Got the jacket in the other day, unfortunatly no name, but as I expected there is a shadow of a patch on the left sholder, anyway I wanted to see what you guys think it might be? I am assuming it is an infantry division that fell under 3rd Army. Link to post Share on other sites
westernfed Posted July 24, 2013 Author Share #17 Posted July 24, 2013 Here is another pic if that helps Link to post Share on other sites
gomorgan Posted July 24, 2013 Share #18 Posted July 24, 2013 How does a CIB winner end up with a Med or Hospital unit? Everyone has their breaking point and when these guys could stand no more they were evacuated for Battle Fatigue/Stress or Exaustion for treatment at some Med unit. If possible they were reassigned to non-combat duty with rear area units, of course some never did recover. Link to post Share on other sites
westernfed Posted July 24, 2013 Author Share #19 Posted July 24, 2013 It's hard to say and unfortunately there are no markings in the coat to help ID the coat so I can request his records Link to post Share on other sites
westernfed Posted July 25, 2013 Author Share #20 Posted July 25, 2013 I am thinking the missing patch was the 99th Infantry Division.... Link to post Share on other sites
Teamski Posted July 25, 2013 Share #21 Posted July 25, 2013 Almost looks like the 9th Air Force to me. -Ski In Memory Of......Pte Harold Griffiths, 1805, 1/6th Manchester Regt, KIA June 4th, 1915 in GallipoliCpl Isaac Judges, 40494, 6th East Yorkshire Regt, KIA October 3rd, 1917 in YpresMay they rest in peace..... MSgt - USAF Retired Link to post Share on other sites
2Dogs Posted July 25, 2013 Share #22 Posted July 25, 2013 Maybe the 28th ID. RULES for C.N.A.s working the night shift at the local hospital. 1. Upper management has no sense of humor. 2. You can't fix stupid. Link to post Share on other sites
westernfed Posted July 25, 2013 Author Share #23 Posted July 25, 2013 I think the 28th is too straight across on the bottom to match this outline. Link to post Share on other sites
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