Ben@HI Posted July 8, 2013 Share #1 Posted July 8, 2013 this is something you don't see everyday. they are Kevlar covers for the PASGT Kevlar helmet (they also make them for the ACH) I just thank that a Kevlar cover for a helmet that is already made from Kevlar is pretty interesting. also for some reason these are pretty hard to find. they are meant to be used with a full suit. Vest with plates, arms, chaps, neck, Visor, Groin with plate and spider boots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben@HI Posted July 8, 2013 Author Share #2 Posted July 8, 2013 some more pics of the covers off helmets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted July 8, 2013 Share #3 Posted July 8, 2013 Interesting. Never seen one before! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pump 150 Posted July 8, 2013 Share #4 Posted July 8, 2013 Neither have I. Is there a company name on the tag? Just wondering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergeantMajorGray Posted July 9, 2013 Share #5 Posted July 9, 2013 Here it is in use with the full setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben@HI Posted July 9, 2013 Author Share #6 Posted July 9, 2013 nope, no name on it just what looks to be an mfg date. I just noticed that the covers have slits for the extra straps that are added when using a PASGT as a paratrooper helmet. so I guess these were jumpable? I would have thought the extra weight would have made that out of the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben@HI Posted July 9, 2013 Author Share #7 Posted July 9, 2013 Here it is in use with the full setup. basicsweep3.jpg he is missing the spider boots but yep that is it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryM3 Posted July 9, 2013 Share #8 Posted July 9, 2013 Ballistic covers for helmets were used during the First Gulf War for certain CVC helmets. The DH-132 and DH-132A did not have the ballistic protective capability of the standard PASGT infantry helmet so a cover made of Aramid (Kevlar) was developed by NATICK to fit over the helmet shell. Have never seen a photo of one actually being worn in the field so doubt they were very popular. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryM3 Posted July 9, 2013 Share #9 Posted July 9, 2013 This is the label of the CVC ballistic cover in three color desert pattern camo. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryM3 Posted July 9, 2013 Share #10 Posted July 9, 2013 These covers were also produced in the Woodland Pattern camo. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pump 150 Posted July 9, 2013 Share #11 Posted July 9, 2013 Larry, with the Natick label were those early covers ever issued or only in the R&D phase? Ben, with MajorGray's photo as a guide did a quick NSN lookup and found these. A photo of the complete set, as well a link to the instruction use manual dated Nov. 2005. These were made by Protective Apparel Corporation of America, Jacksboro TN. The covers were made in three sizes S/M/L http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=body%20armor%20countermine%20ensemble&source=web&cd=11&ved=0CCkQFjAAOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.liberatedmanuals.com%2FTM-10-8470-203-10.pdf&ei=9YbbUeLoH5Tk8gTM2oDQDQ&usg=AFQjCNHApcSIBZshZXzW7PoMOHdNa5OvvQ&bvm=bv.48705608,d.eWU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben@HI Posted July 9, 2013 Author Share #12 Posted July 9, 2013 there are the spider boots I need to get a set! thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergeantMajorGray Posted July 9, 2013 Share #13 Posted July 9, 2013 Larry, with the Natick label were those early covers ever issued or only in the R&D phase? Ben, with MajorGray's photo as a guide did a quick NSN lookup and found these. A photo of the complete set, as well a link to the instruction use manual dated Nov. 2005. These were made by Protective Apparel Corporation of America, Jacksboro TN. The covers were made in three sizes S/M/L http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=body%20armor%20countermine%20ensemble&source=web&cd=11&ved=0CCkQFjAAOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.liberatedmanuals.com%2FTM-10-8470-203-10.pdf&ei=9YbbUeLoH5Tk8gTM2oDQDQ&usg=AFQjCNHApcSIBZshZXzW7PoMOHdNa5OvvQ&bvm=bv.48705608,d.eWU Those boots are so cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergeantMajorGray Posted July 10, 2013 Share #14 Posted July 10, 2013 nope, no name on it just what looks to be an mfg date. I just noticed that the covers have slits for the extra straps that are added when using a PASGT as a paratrooper helmet. so I guess these were jumpable? I would have thought the extra weight would have made that out of the question. I don't think they are jumpable I read this on the link pump posted, WARNING Ballistic cover and face shield add weight to the helmet. The assembly shifts the balance point forward. A high risk of injury to the neck may be expected when the soldier wearing the helmet, helmet cover, and face shield is subjected to external forces or accelerations such as falls, jumping from heights, vehicular movement over rough terrain, or direct impact to the helmet. WARNING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben@HI Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share #15 Posted July 10, 2013 I don't think they are jumpable I read this on the link pump posted, WARNING Ballistic cover and face shield add weight to the helmet. The assembly shifts the balance point forward. A high risk of injury to the neck may be expected when the soldier wearing the helmet, helmet cover, and face shield is subjected to external forces or accelerations such as falls, jumping from heights, vehicular movement over rough terrain, or direct impact to the helmet. WARNING yep, I was reading the manual that Pump linked and it would seem that the two rear slits are for the J hooks on the strap for the face shield and not para straps. I thought that it was odd for this to be jumpable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryM3 Posted July 10, 2013 Share #16 Posted July 10, 2013 Larry, with the Natick label were those early covers ever issued or only in the R&D phase? Ben, with MajorGray's photo as a guide did a quick NSN lookup and found these. A photo of the complete set, as well a link to the instruction use manual dated Nov. 2005. These were made by Protective Apparel Corporation of America, Jacksboro TN. The covers were made in three sizes S/M/L http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=body%20armor%20countermine%20ensemble&source=web&cd=11&ved=0CCkQFjAAOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.liberatedmanuals.com%2FTM-10-8470-203-10.pdf&ei=9YbbUeLoH5Tk8gTM2oDQDQ&usg=AFQjCNHApcSIBZshZXzW7PoMOHdNa5OvvQ&bvm=bv.48705608,d.eWU Ben - I suspect that the CVC helmet covers were still in the test and evaluation phase. Due to the rarity of these items (at least I've never seen very many) and the lack of photographic evidence of actual field use I think prototype is probably a safe category for these puppies. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergeantMajorGray Posted July 16, 2013 Share #17 Posted July 16, 2013 Here is mine. Thanks Ben So these are the helmets combat engineers use when defusing landmines right? Does the EOD use something different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergeantMajorGray Posted July 22, 2013 Share #18 Posted July 22, 2013 Just found this thread while Google searching countermine PASGT cover http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/60165-military-or-police-riot-gear/ Apparently someone had a suit out there for sale somewhere years ago I just have to find it. So is the suit for defusing anti-personnel mines? Because the EOD suits I have seen in movies and on mythbusters seem to be way bigger and thicker. Does anybody know what EOD is actually using right now? Also is this cover in the book about the PASGT? I'm making a YouTube video about this helmet and I want to know if the internet is the only place with info about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pump 150 Posted July 22, 2013 Share #19 Posted July 22, 2013 The U.S. Army training manual I linked stated this was for small/medium AP mines and Booby Traps. Internet searches found that the program started testing 1999 and was contracted first in Aug 2002 and again in 2005. Way past publication of any book containing PASGT info I'm aware of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergeantMajorGray Posted July 22, 2013 Share #20 Posted July 22, 2013 The U.S. Army training manual I linked stated this was for small/medium AP mines and Booby Traps. Internet searches found that the program started testing 1999 and was contracted first in Aug 2002 and again in 2005. Way past publication of any book containing PASGT info I'm aware of. Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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