Sabrejet Posted July 2, 2013 Share #1 Posted July 2, 2013 I have a large collection of US garrison caps numbering 70+ and growing. My aim is to collect all the principal variants, particularly the various Branch of Service colours. I'm doing pretty well but there are still a few elusive ones out there! However....my query concerns the one pictured below. It's a 100% USGI overseas cap...well marked with laundry numbers and CS tag etc. But, as you can see, it has pink braid! Now, I've consulted every reference I know and pink is not listed in any of them...but it plainly exists! It's not faded red...it is actually solid pink. Any ideas as to its significance (and please...avoid the obvious "pink" jokes! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share #2 Posted July 2, 2013 Cont'd... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitter2k1 Posted July 2, 2013 Share #3 Posted July 2, 2013 Interesting. I've dug around the Internet for a bit to see if I could find anything. The only thing I came up with that was pink are the German Armored troops. But it would accessorize well with the pink explosion proof flashlight ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share #4 Posted July 2, 2013 Yes...I know the Panzerwaffe used pink piping too. "Return of the Pink Panzer"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AAF_Collection Posted July 2, 2013 Share #5 Posted July 2, 2013 Hi Ian, As the cap has a laundry number in it, it was obviously worn but I wonder if it's either a manufacturing defect, or a reaction due to dry cleaning which has caused red artillery piping to uniformly change colour?. Just a thought. Matt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitter2k1 Posted July 2, 2013 Share #6 Posted July 2, 2013 Here's something else I found while trying to find an answer. Unfortunately it didn't provide one. http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/ww2-us-army-em-garrison-cap-rose-pink-piping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share #7 Posted July 2, 2013 Here's something else I found while trying to find an answer. Unfortunately it didn't provide one. http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/ww2-us-army-em-garrison-cap-rose-pink-piping Thanks for your efforts! At least the link shows that there are others out there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share #8 Posted July 2, 2013 Anyone? It's definitely solid pink and not faded red. In the hand this is quite apparent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyCanteen Posted July 2, 2013 Share #9 Posted July 2, 2013 Ian, what does the CS tag say on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dskjl Posted July 2, 2013 Share #10 Posted July 2, 2013 Operation Petticoat Sorry i couldn't resist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dskjl Posted July 2, 2013 Share #11 Posted July 2, 2013 http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/1261-branch-colors-cap-piping-color-reference/page-2 Here is a thread with another one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgawne Posted July 2, 2013 Share #12 Posted July 2, 2013 on one hand, dye lots can be screwed up and it is possible for a color to pretty uniformly fade if it is not properly done. This happens chemically, and can take place even out of light. This is what I suspect. I have never, ever seen pink as even a proposed branch color. Although this style of piping did used to be available on the civilian marketplace in sewing stores. However, I have seen the combat service tag's removed from crappy items of surplus and attached to items to 'make them seem cooler.' In some case to outright fakes tried to pass with this "proof." My question is that this hat is in such good shape (aside from the color) that I would have to wonder why it would need the tag. (although I will say I have never been able to find the exact regs on when this tag was used, but every single legit one I have ever seen was from a state side area) Something just seems odd to me to about this item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share #13 Posted July 2, 2013 Very good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share #14 Posted July 2, 2013 on one hand, dye lots can be screwed up and it is possible for a color to pretty uniformly fade if it is not properly done. This happens chemically, and can take place even out of light. This is what I suspect. I have never, ever seen pink as even a proposed branch color. Although this style of piping did used to be available on the civilian marketplace in sewing stores. However, I have seen the combat service tag's removed from crappy items of surplus and attached to items to 'make them seem cooler.' In some case to outright fakes tried to pass with this "proof." My question is that this hat is in such good shape (aside from the color) that I would have to wonder why it would need the tag. (although I will say I have never been able to find the exact regs on when this tag was used, but every single legit one I have ever seen was from a state side area) Something just seems odd to me to about this item. It's been used by more than one individual as there are multiple laundry numbers inside it. Also, more than one is known to exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share #15 Posted July 2, 2013 The CS tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share #16 Posted July 2, 2013 Solid pink braid and laundry numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted July 2, 2013 Share #17 Posted July 2, 2013 Yes...I know the Panzerwaffe used pink piping too. "Return of the Pink Panzer"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted July 2, 2013 Share #18 Posted July 2, 2013 I,m wondering what's up with that Jersey City and the Address, 125 West End Avenue stamp, a most unaffilated military address. 125 West End Avenue is on the Upper West side of Manhattan at W 66 th Street, did a Army Quartermaster Corps clothing facility occupy 125 West End Avenue during WWII? It certainly could have, it's a industrial Building, that now houses studios for ABC. http://www.propertyshark.com/mason/Property/18312/125-W-End-Ave-New-York-NY-10023/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot12 Posted July 2, 2013 Share #19 Posted July 2, 2013 Cont'd... Don't ask. Don't tell ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack's Son Posted July 2, 2013 Share #20 Posted July 2, 2013 Yes...I know the Panzerwaffe used pink piping too. "Return of the Pink Panzer"? HEY....I thought you said "NO pink jokes" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted July 3, 2013 Author Share #21 Posted July 3, 2013 rutles.jpg Kevin...your Monty Python credentials are showing through again! Or, to be more precise in this instance, Eric Idle's "Rutland Weekend Television" which was screened on BBCtv back in the late 70s and which spawned the classic Beatles pastiche, "The Rutles"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted July 3, 2013 Author Share #22 Posted July 3, 2013 With regard to the unidentified cap, I guess I'll have to consign it to the "origins unknown" drawer then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1ashooter Posted July 3, 2013 Share #23 Posted July 3, 2013 With all the Gay news in the states you would post a cap with pink brade on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted July 3, 2013 Share #24 Posted July 3, 2013 Kevin...your Monty Python credentials are showing through again! Or, to be more precise in this instance, Eric Idle's "Rutland Weekend Television" which was screened on BBCtv back in the late 70s and which spawned the classic Beatles pastiche, "The Rutles"! Some kind of wild huh? The Prefab Four http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rutles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted July 3, 2013 Author Share #25 Posted July 3, 2013 With all the Gay news in the states you would post a cap with pink brade on it. See...I knew you guys couldn't resist the colour connections!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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