kammo-man Posted August 17, 2014 Author Share #751 Posted August 17, 2014 THats a real SS sniper veil 100%. And a double claw SS K-98 rifle. If you are going to do something .....do it right. owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyse Posted August 18, 2014 Share #752 Posted August 18, 2014 Owen, do you know why Brad was given a pair of Russian goggles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted August 18, 2014 Share #753 Posted August 18, 2014 I presume you're referring to these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyse Posted August 18, 2014 Share #754 Posted August 18, 2014 Are those the ones? What's the story behind them, do you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted August 18, 2014 Share #755 Posted August 18, 2014 Are those the ones? What's the story behind them, do you know? I really have no idea. I just read your comment and added the pics so people can see what you're referring to, on the basis that "a picture paints a thousand words....." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted August 18, 2014 Share #756 Posted August 18, 2014 Typical WW2 US tankers goggles, L to R...Resistals...Polaroid 1021s...M1944s ( the use of M1944s is hotly debated as they appear to be an early post-war item) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrei Posted August 18, 2014 Share #757 Posted August 18, 2014 Owen, do you know why Brad was given a pair of Russian goggles? Brad Pitt character should have picked them up in Normandy. From a dead german soldier or a dead ex-soviet troop serving in one of the several Wh Foreign Legions made up of soviet POW or volunteers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted August 18, 2014 Share #758 Posted August 18, 2014 M1944s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David D Posted August 18, 2014 Share #759 Posted August 18, 2014 It looks like M1944s to me -Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted August 18, 2014 Share #760 Posted August 18, 2014 It looks like M1944s to me -Dave That was my point. As I said in a previous post, the general consensus seems to be that these weren't issued to tankers until the occupation period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aips Posted August 18, 2014 Share #761 Posted August 18, 2014 the patch work on the tankers jackets looks well done i have 3 orignals in my collection all with this similar patch repair work done on them (i dont think they would of used german camo though to be honest) 3rd one not pictured has patch repairs on both elbows note the oil stain on the back of the 1st pattern also as a side note all the originals i have come across have green stitching a trick most repro company's seem to miss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aips Posted August 18, 2014 Share #762 Posted August 18, 2014 one more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted August 18, 2014 Share #763 Posted August 18, 2014 Three...including a first pattern?! Lucky you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted August 18, 2014 Share #764 Posted August 18, 2014 One of my WW2 rigs...with Polaroid 1021s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted August 18, 2014 Share #765 Posted August 18, 2014 .....and occupation period > Korean War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ww2imp Posted August 18, 2014 Share #766 Posted August 18, 2014 also as a side note all the originals i have come across have green stitching a trick most repro company's seem to miss 'cept for us!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willysmb44 Posted August 18, 2014 Share #767 Posted August 18, 2014 The AAF had a goggle very similar to the M1944 ones and were used much earlier than the latter. On screen, you'd be very hard-pressed to tell the difference between the two... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted August 18, 2014 Share #768 Posted August 18, 2014 The AAF had a goggle very similar to the M1944 ones and were used much earlier than the latter. On screen, you'd be very hard-pressed to tell the difference between the two... The B8 goggles you refer to differ most noticeably from the '44s in that they have a flange across the bridge of the nose which seals the gap between the oxygen mask and the goggles. They were also chamois lined. See pic below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted August 18, 2014 Author Share #769 Posted August 18, 2014 Andrei is correct . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willysmb44 Posted August 18, 2014 Share #770 Posted August 18, 2014 The B8 goggles you refer to differ most noticeably from the '44s in that they have a flange across the bridge of the nose which seals the gap between the oxygen mask and the goggles. They were also chamois lined. See pic below. Yes, I'm familiar with this, but it'd be tough to spot such details on a movie screen unless they're in close-up, especially the lining which is really tough to see unless you're wearing them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share #771 Posted August 20, 2014 Lets NOT forget......... that the movie action takes place 4 weeks before the end of the war in the ETO. the supply line was working. To say 100% that a pair of goggles did not get issued till one day after the war is not grounded in reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted August 20, 2014 Share #772 Posted August 20, 2014 Just adding to the discussion here. Somewhere in the forum's archives is a thread about M1944s in the course of which the timing of their issue and use by tank crews was debated. If I recall rightly, the "nearest" photographic evidence to their WW2 use which could be found showed a tank crew in Austria, post-hostilities. If someone can produce a verified WW2 Signal Corp pic of them in use by a combat crew and post it here then that would lay it to rest. Whilst doing a little digging on the net I found an article about US tankers and lifted this quote. "T/O&Es in November 1944 were calling for the standard use of the M-1944 goggle and these goggles came into use by ground forces in late 1944/early 1945. However, photos of 752nd tankers do not show this goggle in use until the post-war period." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenm Posted August 20, 2014 Share #773 Posted August 20, 2014 A couple of pics of B-8's in use from September 1944. This one is from the 10th of Sept.: And this one is the 745th Tank Battalion at the beginning of September (2 sets here, plus Polaroids on the driver): A few I've spotted in an non-thorough look for them. Cheers, Glen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenm Posted August 20, 2014 Share #774 Posted August 20, 2014 Oh, and I'd put money on the only tanks that were shipped into theatre supplied with M1944 googles in the accompanying equipment were the M26 Pershings and the M4A3E8's, both of which the 2nd Armd received before the war's end of course. Cheers, Glen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted August 20, 2014 Share #775 Posted August 20, 2014 I thought maybe Glen would chip in on this one! Nice bit of detective work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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