ChuckyD Posted June 16, 2013 Share #1 Posted June 16, 2013 To say that collecting has become ADDICTING is an understatement. Had no desire to collect anything while on active duty for 23+ year nor almost 10 years after my retirement. Just got bit by the buy this year!! Very happy to get this in my collection!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadrunner Posted June 18, 2013 Share #2 Posted June 18, 2013 Hello Nice looking shoulder board. I've never seen this live. It can be seen at the bottom of the node, it is a pair. The EGA's looks to be identical. That would mean that an eagle looking forward and the other backward if worn on uniform. At this time I don't have a regulation at hand to check this. HAVE A NICE DAY Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devildog34 Posted June 18, 2013 Share #3 Posted June 18, 2013 Greetings, very nice clean boards! EGAs should have anchors facing inboard to be a left/right matching set but these display beautifully as is. Congrats! Semper Fi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teufelhunde.ret Posted June 18, 2013 Share #4 Posted June 18, 2013 Greetings, very nice clean boards! EGAs should have anchors facing inboard to be a left/right matching set but these display beautifully as is. Congrats! Semper Fi Or as the reg's from the era said "facing front" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadrunner Posted June 18, 2013 Share #5 Posted June 18, 2013 Or as the reg's from the era said "facing front" These shoulder boards are identical for one site but with the EGA's for the left and right side. The shoulder boards from ChuckyD have on the bottom two loops, one from left over the other, the other shoulder board two loops from right over the other. This should be a real pair but with one wrong EGA. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teufelhunde.ret Posted June 18, 2013 Share #6 Posted June 18, 2013 These shoulder boards are identical for one site but with the EGA's for the left and right side. The shoulder boards from ChuckyD have on the bottom two loops, one from left over the other, the other shoulder board two loops from right over the other. This should be a real pair but with one wrong EGA. Michael HUH? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasonK Posted June 18, 2013 Share #7 Posted June 18, 2013 HUH? Let me preface by saying, I know nothing about these shoulder boards, but wanted to explain what Roadrunner is saying. On the shoulder board to the left, there are two loops in the braid at the bottom, near the EGA. This one has the braid going left to right, over the other loop. The opposite is occuring on the shoulder board on the right. I think what he is trying to say is the shoulder boards themselves are a correct set, just the EGA's are not. Again, not knowing anything about these shoulder boards, the only issue I see with this, is on the boards posted by teufelhunde, both braids go in the same direction, so I don't know how much of an indicator this really is in determining a correct set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teufelhunde.ret Posted June 18, 2013 Share #8 Posted June 18, 2013 I think what he is trying to say is the shoulder boards themselves are a correct set, just the EGA's are not. Now that makes sense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normaninvasion Posted June 18, 2013 Share #9 Posted June 18, 2013 MasonK thank you for that explanation on the knots! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadrunner Posted June 18, 2013 Share #10 Posted June 18, 2013 @ MasonK Thanks for the explanation. For me it was very difficult to describe it in english. That's it, what I tried to say. I tried to find a solution in a uniform regulation but can't find a picture. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hired_gun Posted July 31, 2013 Share #11 Posted July 31, 2013 So then based on the loops, which EGA is correct for which loop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadrunner Posted April 9, 2015 Share #12 Posted April 9, 2015 A pair is at ebay for sale http://www.ebay.de/itm/271828193395?clk_rvr_id=811149170804&rmvSB=true&ul_ref=http%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%253A80%252Frover%252F1%252F707-53477-19255-0%252F1%253Fcampid%253D5336454949%2526toolid%253D10013%2526customId%253Dmilitary-and-wartime%25252Foverview%2526mpre%253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.ebay.de%25252Fitm%25252F271828193395%2526srcrot%253D707-53477-19255-0%2526rvr_id%253D811149170804 For me interesting is the "L" marked on reverse to identify one of the shoulder boards as LEFT one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadrunner Posted April 9, 2015 Share #13 Posted April 9, 2015 A pair is at ebay for sale http://www.ebay.de/itm/271828193395?clk_rvr_id=811149170804&rmvSB=true&ul_ref=http%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%253A80%252Frover%252F1%252F707-53477-19255-0%252F1%253Fcampid%253D5336454949%2526toolid%253D10013%2526customId%253Dmilitary-and-wartime%25252Foverview%2526mpre%253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.ebay.de%25252Fitm%25252F271828193395%2526srcrot%253D707-53477-19255-0%2526rvr_id%253D811149170804 For me interesting is the "L" marked on reverse to identify one of the shoulder boards as LEFT one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C. Roelens Posted April 9, 2015 Share #14 Posted April 9, 2015 The "L" is the manufacturers hallmark. Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmcaviator Posted April 10, 2015 Share #15 Posted April 10, 2015 I am not sure if the 1892 regulations addresses this, but these epaulettes "should" have left and right facing EGA's, just like collar devices. However, I commonly see photos of Marines on ship and in the field wearing these epaulettes with the same facing EGA on each board (example photo below). So, having a pair with the same facing EGA, is not "wrong" by any stretch. Also worth noting.....a lot of these epaulettes and EGAs hit the surplus market post 1904 (Bannermann's being the most prolific). I surmise that many epaulettes were probably pulled from a bin and slapped together without much thought. This also explains why the maker's marks differ quite often. These "surplus" epaulettes are generally distinguished by the EGA having two single prongs for the attachment method (leftmost in photo below). The ones with the two double prongs (rightmost in photo below), seem to be what I find in "original" lots, or that I would say was Marine issue and pre-Bannerman surplus. The ones with double prongs are outwardly identical to the surplus ones and are a little thicker and "whiter" gauge of metal as well (pictures below). Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadrunner Posted April 10, 2015 Share #16 Posted April 10, 2015 at Chuck Do you have any references about the hallmark ? The producer is Horstmann with "H" and the marking is "L". That was the reason I think it's for LEFT at Mike Thank you for the informations and the pictures. Do you have the compleate picture ? Thanks Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted April 11, 2015 Share #17 Posted April 11, 2015 For some reason, the left shoulder emblem is FAR more common that the right. Of the 8 or so emblems/boards I've owned with dual prongs, they've ALL been left. Still hunting a right That image is fantastic, as it validates the fact that we often see pairs, often mismatched, with left emblems on both. And the guy has a pretty epic 'stache, so it's a win-win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobgee Posted April 11, 2015 Share #18 Posted April 11, 2015 Great image and sound remarks, Mike. Confirms that many opinions folks have are erroneous. S/F......Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmcaviator Posted April 11, 2015 Share #19 Posted April 11, 2015 at Chuck Do you have any references about the hallmark ? The producer is Horstmann with "H" and the marking is "L". That was the reason I think it's for LEFT at Mike Thank you for the informations and the pictures. Do you have the compleate picture ? Thanks Michael Complete photo. One of the best shots of the era showing a great display of helmets and uniform, both officer, enlisted and even a drummer boy. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted April 11, 2015 Share #20 Posted April 11, 2015 Absolutely love the photo, drummer boy ices the cake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Posted April 11, 2015 Share #21 Posted April 11, 2015 Stunning photo of the Baltimore's ship detachment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobgee Posted April 11, 2015 Share #22 Posted April 11, 2015 Wonderful photo, Mike. Any idea of the date? S/F......Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KurtA Posted April 13, 2015 Share #23 Posted April 13, 2015 Any idea of the date? Based on the sgt wearing a Sampson Medal but no West Indies Campaign Medal, probably between 1901 and 1908. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leatherneck72 Posted April 14, 2015 Share #24 Posted April 14, 2015 KurtA, The P1892 spiked helmet was out of regs by 1904, so that should help narrow down the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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