Sparty On Posted June 9, 2013 Share #1 Posted June 9, 2013 I didn't see where this has been discussed yet so I though I would start. I was watching and looking at this item the last few days now trying to determine the authenticity based on the photos and information provided (of course nothing beats hands on inspection IMO and you buy the item not the story). I'm anxious to add a painted bomber jacket to my aviation collection but I'm very hesistant about pulling the trigger on one for fear of getting burned. I've read where it has been suggested that provenence is key with these painted jackets but that also you can't necessarily determine the authenticity alone on whether or not the painted images are in excellent or poor condition. My guess is that this is a reproduction. The redflags I suspected are the condition of the cloth ends of the sleeves and waist appear too good of condition for a jacket that is supposed to be 65+ years old. I guess I would expect to see more tears or snags. Secondly, the removal of the manufacturer tag is alarming, although it appears to be an ANJ-3. Not to mention it only sold for just over $500.00 (I know these usually fetch a decent price tag). Does anyone else agree with this or am I wrong and someone got a great deal on a sleeper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparty On Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share #2 Posted June 9, 2013 Front... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sparty On Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share #4 Posted June 9, 2013 Torn manufacturer tag... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted June 9, 2013 Share #5 Posted June 9, 2013 Im not crazy about the paint.Almost looks like an acrylic modern paint.Looks pretty fresh compared to the jacket.Art work varies but Im thinking this isnt from the 40s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRR Posted June 9, 2013 Share #6 Posted June 9, 2013 The missing tag is a red flag for me. Perhaps an original later done piece and the tag was removed to erase the date of manufacture. If I were going to add an expensive piece to my collection, it would be one there was no doubt as to the authenticity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbinephalen Posted June 10, 2013 Share #7 Posted June 10, 2013 NSFW!!! My boss just walked by! Haha, I kid. Interesting jacket art though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted June 10, 2013 Share #8 Posted June 10, 2013 Missing tag doesnt bother me.I have had several original A2s with them removed.The paint and lack of wear through it speak more to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Signor Posted June 10, 2013 Share #9 Posted June 10, 2013 This is a jacket art from the CAF's B-25 of the same name , not a WW2 piece , check out the name and CAF and you should find some photos of he bird with this art Johnny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Ragan Posted June 10, 2013 Share #10 Posted June 10, 2013 The CAF B-25 has in the last few years, had a bikini overpainted on the girl. I understand this was done because of "political correctness". I do agree with the others here, that this is a made up jacket. Looks cool, but not something for a collection of "real", period items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted June 10, 2013 Share #11 Posted June 10, 2013 It's just like a G-1 but without the usual mouton collar. It's probably a commercial copy of an ANJ-3 jacket I believe, by virtue of the snap at the base of the zipper and, if I'm not mistaken, didn't originals have deep reddish-brown rayon lining?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDK Posted June 10, 2013 Share #12 Posted June 10, 2013 It's just like a G-1 but without the usual mouton collar. It's probably a commercial copy of an ANJ-3 jacket I believe, by virtue of the snap at the base of the zipper and, if I'm not mistaken, didn't originals have deep reddish-brown rayon lining?! You nailed it Ian. This is a commercial produced ANJ-3. The artwork is no good. Commercial/Private Purchase jackets did make it into service, but I don't think this is one of them. Missing spec labels aren't a problem on original A-2 jackets when you know what you are looking for. Contracts can still be determined by unique characteristics. I also agree with the sentiment that when buying painted A-2 jackets or any high end flight jacket for that matter, provenance is key. There are pieces that you can tell are right as can be without it though. My best advice is to ask. Good luck on the search. JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparty On Posted June 10, 2013 Author Share #13 Posted June 10, 2013 I did some searching as suggested and the Yellow Rose is definitely a modern work of fictitious nose art on the CAF B-25. So that eliminates any chance of it being a period jacket. Patience, I guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted June 10, 2013 Share #14 Posted June 10, 2013 There is a name in the jacket.Just hard to say when it was worn.The lining is definately old as well as the leather.Not something I have seen on the repro Avirex jackets.Very possible a vintage MC or other commerical jacket.I agree with Ian on the snap on the bottom.Saw that right off.Most often see a snap on motocycle jackets.It doeas have the bi-directional waist band and the band and cuffs dont appear to be made of modern materials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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