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This is one of the great pieces in the museum's collection. You see it as we received it.

The info we have is that Harry Long, from Ft. Recovery, OH, and from reading the uniform, served in the 5th Marine Regiment, Company C, of a machine gun battalion? I don't know the TO&E of the 5th Regiment at the time.

If any one can help with info on Long we would appreciate it.

Enjoy!

 

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Sorry for the snapshot photo's my studio is down right now and I just used the camera flash.

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Beautiful outfit! However it's a uniform of the 5th Marine Brigade. The 5th Regiment was in the 4th Brigade, 2nd Division. Totally different unit.

Semper Fi............Bobgee

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U.S. Marine Corps Muster Rolls, 1798-1940

 

Name: Harry R Long

Muster Date: Nov 1918

Enlistment Date: 11 Aug 1918

RANK: Private

Station: ''C'' Company, Machine Gun Battalion, 5th Brigade, AE F, France

 

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Thanks for the info and correction, that's why I posted it so Long's uniform can be properly presented.

So, he enlisted on 11 Aug, of '18.

Now, to decifer the muster rolls,

He shows up on the November, '18 Muster rolls of Co. C, Machine Gun Battalion, 5th Brigade, Allied Expedituary Force, in France.

 

Something happened on the 11th, then it says, "16 by jd tr fr Co "C" 9th Sep Bn AEF 24-30 sick in Hospital Camp Pontanesen GO 100 does not apply"

What I can translate of that is, 16(?) by tr(transfer?) fr(from?) Co C" 9th Seperate Battalion Allied Expedituary Force 24-30(the dates he was in hospital?) sick in Hospital Camp Potanesen GO(General Order) 100 does not apply" If he was in Co. "C" of the MG Bn, how is he transfered from Co C" 9th Seperate Battalion? What is GO 100?

 

Thanks for all the help folks!

BKW

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What is GO 100?

GENERAL ORDERS GENERAL HEADQUARTERS, A. E. F.

No. 100 France, June 20, 1918

I. 1. The Adjutant General, A. E. F., is charged with maintaining accurate and complete

records as hereinafter indicated, of all officers and soldiers of the United

States Army serving in Europe, civilians attached thereto, all prisoners of war held

by enemy forces and prisoners of war held by our forces.

2. For such purpose a Statistical Division is established in the office of the

Adjutant General, A. E. F.. and charged with the following duties:

(a) The preparation and forwarding of lists of all casualties.

(B) Keeping a record of the location and assignment of all officers and

soldiers of the A. E. F. and civilians attached thereto, and of the location and

strength of all units.

© Maintenance of a classification system showing the qualification and

experience, military and civil, of all officers and soldiers of the A. E. F.

(d) Maintenance of an inquiry bureau as to prisoners of war.

(e) Supervision and checking of all returns and rolls which were required to

be submitted by units to the Adjutant General, A. E. F.

3. The Statistical Division, A. G. O., A. E. F., will maintain at G. H. 8. A. E.

F., information regarding officers of the A. E. F., the strength and location of units,

and will maintain a Central Records Office, located at A. P. 0. No. 717, where records

of all officers and soldiers of the A. E. F. will be kept: The Prisoners of War Inquiry

Bureau will be located at the Central Records Office.

The Statistical Division will establish, as required, a statistical section at

each of the following headquarters, the necessary personnel being assigned for this

duty by the Adjutant General, A. E. F.

(a) Headquarters of each army.

(B) Headquarters of each army corps.

© Headquarters of each division.

(d) Headquarters, Services of Supply.

(e) Headquarters of each section, Services of Supply.

(i) Headquarters, Base Depot.

(g) Third Echelon, British E. F. (American Statistical Section).

(h) American Mission, French G. Q. G.

(i) At such other points that may be found necessary from time to time.

4. Personnel officers will also perform the duties prescribed herein for statistical

officers.

5. In addition to statistical sections prescribed above, there will be established

by the commander at whose headquarters statistical sections are located subsections in

all subordinate commands, for the purpose of receiving, preparing and forwarding the reports,

rolls and returns required of the units to which the subsections are attached.

The adjutant of each command is charged with the operation of the statistical section

or subsection. In case of separate companies, troops, batteries and organizations

having no adjutant, the commanding officer of such unit, or an officer to be designated

by him, is charged with the operation of the subsection. Personnel to assist the officer

charged with operation of the subsection is prescribed as follows:

(a) For each brigade, one soldier.

(B) For each Regiment, the officer designated by Bulletin No. 22, c. s.. these

headquarters, as personnel officer and three soldiers.

© For each separate battalion, one soldier.

(d) For each train, one soldier.

(e) For each sanitary train, field hospital section, one soldier, ambulance

section, one soldier.

(f) For each base hospital, camp hospital, evacuation hospital, venereal hospital

and convalescent hospital, three soldiers.

(g) For each depot, one soldier.

(h) For each aero squadron, one soldier.

(i) For each separate unit not specifically mentioned above, at least one

qualified soldier.

6. Statistical sections are charged with receiving from statistical subsections,

gathering from other sources and checking as to their accuracy, complete records and

reports of all personnel of the command to which such sections are attached. This will

include, except where otherwise specifically provided by the Adjutant General, A. E. F.,

the following:

(a) Daily reports of casualties and changes, Form 4, S. D., A. G. 0.

(B) Daily reports of casualties and changes, patients in hospitals, Form 22,

S. D., A. G. 0.

© Weekly medical reports (severe cases) from hospitals.

(d) Monthly rosters as of the last day of each month for all organizations by

companies.

(e) The general supervision of all returns and roles of all organizations,

unattached officers, soldiers and civilians included in command to which assigned, and

the preparation of field report of enemy prisoners of war, Form 26, S. D., A. G. 0.

The above reports, from (a) to (e), will be forwarded to the Central Records Office.

(f) Weekly strength returns, in duplicate, will be obtained from all organizations

of the command to which attached, one copy to be retained, and one copy to be

forwarded by courier to Statistical Division, A. G. 0.. G. H. Q. A. E. F.

In addition to receiving and forwarding these reports, statistical officers will

prepare and forward to the Statistical Division, A. G. 0.. G. H. Q. A. E. F., the required

consolidated strength returns, consolidated weekly returns of casualties and

changes of officers (Form 30, S. D., A. G. 0.). for the commands to which they are attached,

weekly rosters of officers on form prescribed, a list of the organizations of

the command to which attached, together with the stations thereof. Telegraphic advice

- 353 -

will be sent of any changes of stations by units.

7. General Order No. 2, 19 17. these headquarters, and Par. 1. G. 0. No. 19. 1917,

these headquarters, are amended in so far as they require the forwarding of reports,

returns and rolls direct to these headquarters. Such reports, returns and rolls hereafter

will be forwarded through headquarters having statistical subsections and statistical

sections.

All reports, returns, cards and rolls required of organizations through statistical

sections, as prescribed in this order, will be forwarded by courier to the Central Records

Office, A. P. 0. No. 717, or to the Statistical Division, A. G. 0.. G. H. Q. A. E. F.,

A. P. 0. No. 706, as indicated in Par. 6.

8. Statistical officers in charge of sections will exercise such supervision over

subsections as is necessary to insure the proper and accurate rendition of all reports,

rolls and returns, and will at all times be familiar with and prepared to furnish such

information as may be required regarding the personnel and the requirements thereof of

the command to which attached.

9. Statistical officers in charge of sections will maintain at all times, available

for the inform tion of the headquarters to which attached, complete records as

follows:

(a) Army and Corps Sections--A roster of all officers of the army or corps

and of all soldiers of army or corps troops.

(B) Division and all other Sections--A roster of all officers and soldiers

of the command or area to which the section is attached, except that the Statistical

Section at headquarters Services of Supply will maintain a roster of all officers of

the S. 0. S. and soldiers that are directly under those headquarters.

© The location and strength of all units, number of guns, amount of ammunition,

and available transportation, within the command or area to which the section

is attached.

(d) Statistical or personnel officers in charge of statistical sections at

replacement and base divisions are charged, in addition to other duties, with the

maintenance of the classification of personnel system. These sections will maintain

classification cards for all officers and soldiers in these divisions, and will requisition

on the Central Records Office for classification cards for officers and soldiers

evacuated through hospitals or other sources to these divisions,

10. Classification cards for all officers will be maintained by the Statistical

Division, General Headquarters, A. E. F. Duplicate classification cards for all officers

and the classification cards for all soldiers will be maintained at the Central

Records Office, except those of the depot and replacement divisions and base depots,

which will be maintained as outlined above. The statistical officer of combatant divisions

will forward classification cards for all officers to the Statistical Division,

G. H. Q. A. E. F.. immediately upon their arrival in training areas. Statistical cards

for soldiers of these divisions will be forwarded to the Central Records Office prior

to leaving training areas.

At the Central Records Office the classification cards for officers and soldiers

of staff departments will be maintained separately in order that this information may

be obtainable at all times for the use of these departments.

11. Officers in charge of statistical sections at base sections, Service of Supply,

are charged with the preparation of passenger lists (Form 3, S. D.. A. G. 0.). in quadruplicate

of all officers and soldiers departing for the United States: one copy to be

mailed to the A. G. 0. Statistical Division, G. H. Q. A. E. F. one copy addressed to

The Adjutant General of the Army (to be given to the officer in command of the ship and

to be mailed by him at the port of debarkation). one copy for the vessel, and one copy

to be retained for the files of the Statistical section.

Statistical officers at base sections are charged with receiving and forwarding

statistical and locator cards of all officers and soldiers arriving from the United

States. These forms, immediately upon their receipt, will be forwarded by courier to

Central Records Office. Any officers or soldiers arriving without these cards in their

possession will be furnished with the necessary blank forms for immediate completion.

Organizations and casuals upon arrival at port for whom the necessary cards have

not been prepared will immediately complete initial information blanks, statistical

cards and classification cards for all officers and soldiers. Classification cards for

casual officers will be made in duplicate, one copy to be forwarded to Statistical Division,

A. G. 0.. G. H. Q. A. E. F., upon arrival at base depot or depot division.

Statistical sections and subsections for divisions and other units will be formed,

and will take up the rendition of prescribed reports immediately upon their debarkation.

12. Direct correspondence between the officers of the sections and subsections of

the Statistical Division is authorized when pertaining to routine matters. No general

instructions other than those issued or specially authorized by the Adjutant General,

A. E. F., will be issued by officers in charge of statistical sections.

13. The provisions of this order are not to be construed as relieving commanding

and other officers charged with the proper preparation and checking of returns and

rolls from any of the requirements prescribed by Army Regulations.

14. Service records required to be forwarded to the Adjutant General, G. H. Q. A.

E. F., by Sec. VII, Pars. 4 and 7, G. 0. No. 46, 19 18, G. H. Q. A. E. F., and Par. 2,

G. 0. No. 68. 1918, G. H. Q. A. E. F. will be forwarded hereafter to the Central Records

Office.

Reports of disability boards required by Sec. I, Par. 8, G. 0. No. 41, 1918, G. H.

Q. A. E. F.. to be forwarded to Statistical Division, A. G. 0.. G. H. Q. A. E. F., will

hereafter be forwarded to Central Records Office.

Lists of effects received at Effects Depot prescribed in Sec. I, Par. 6, G. 0. No.

40, 19 18, G. H. Q. A. E. F., and report of burials, required by Sec. IV, Par. 7 (0, G.

0. No. 30, 1918, G. H. Q. A. E. F., will hereafter be sent to Central Records Office.

Telegraphic reports of death required by Sec. I. Par. 8. G. 0. No. 40. 1918, G. H.

9. A. E. F., will be consolidated by the adjutants of divisions, etc., and will hereafter

be telegraphed when possible: otherwise forwarded by courier, as of 5 p. m. each

day to Central Records Office.

15. General Order No. 67, these headquarters, 1917, is revoked.

II. 1. Pursuant to authority granted in Par. 4, W. D. Cablegram No. 1090, April 12,

19 18, a provisional replacement unit of Type A. with the personnel shown in a Table of

Organization prepared by the General Staff, A. E. F., is authorized for each of the

following:

Organization and Training Center No. 1 for Heavy Tractor Artillery.

Organization and Training Center No. 2 for Heavy Tractor Artillery.

Organization and Training Center No. 3 for Heavy Tractor Artillery.

Organization and Training Center No. 4 for Heavy Tractor Artillery.

(11954 A. G. 0.1

III. 1. In order to unify, as far as possible, the supply of the Allied forces, the

principle of closer co-operation in the distribution of supplies in common use among

the armies has been unanimously adopted by the Allied governments. For the purpose of

putting this principle into operation, the appointment of a Military Board of Allied

Supply, consisting of one representative of each of the Allied armies, has been agreed

upon. In its capacity as the representative body of the several supply departments of

the respective armies, this board is expected to study questions of supply, and adopt

all proper measures for the coordination of Allied resources and utilities.

2. The services of the Board of Allied Supply thus created will be fully utilized

by officers of the various supply departments of the A. E. F., who are enjoined to seek

through this agency the equitable allotment of such supplies, and, in co-operating with

corresponding supply officers of the Allied armies, to take the most liberal attitude,

to the end that every economy in the management and unification of Allied supply systems

may be accomplished.

3. Col. Charles G. Dawes, E. C.. N. A., is designated as the representative of the

A. E. F. on the Military Board of Allied Supply.

Iv. 1. Moccasons have been discontinued as an article of issue for troops in France.

2. Those now in possession of troops may be retained by them until work out.

3. Requisitions calling for moccasins for issue during the winter of 19 18- 19 will

be supplied until the present stock is exhausted.

(8542 A. G. 0.)

By Command of General Pershing:

JAMES W. McANDREW,

Chief of Staff.

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Thanks for the info and correction, that's why I posted it so Long's uniform can be properly presented.

So, he enlisted on 11 Aug, of '18.

Now, to decifer the muster rolls,

He shows up on the November, '18 Muster rolls of Co. C, Machine Gun Battalion, 5th Brigade, Allied Expedituary Force, in France.

 

Something happened on the 11th, then it says, "16 by jd tr fr Co "C" 9th Sep Bn AEF 24-30 sick in Hospital Camp Pontanesen GO 100 does not apply"

What I can translate of that is, 16(?) by tr(transfer?) fr(from?) Co C" 9th Seperate Battalion Allied Expedituary Force 24-30(the dates he was in hospital?) sick in Hospital Camp Potanesen GO(General Order) 100 does not apply" If he was in Co. "C" of the MG Bn, how is he transfered from Co C" 9th Seperate Battalion? What is GO 100?

 

Thanks for all the help folks!

BKW

 

 

He was apparently recently transferred from the 9th Separate Battalion just before he got sick. I've thought the 9th was sort of a holding area for replacements, but I'm not sure about that.

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He was apparently recently transferred from the 9th Separate Battalion just before he got sick. I've thought the 9th was sort of a holding area for replacements, but I'm not sure about that.

 

Maybe this adds something to his record:

Ohio Military Men, 1917-18

about Harry Russell Long

Name: Harry Russell Long

Serial Number: No Serial Number

Race: W

Residence: Fort Recovery, O.

Enlistment Division: United States Marine Corps

Enlistment Location: Toledo, O.

Enlistment Date: 11 Aug 1918

Birth Place: Portland, Ind.

Birth Date / Age: 9 Dec 1898

Assigns Comment: Parris Island Summary Court 6 Aug 1918; 9 Separate Battalion Quantico Va 22 Oct 1918; France 12 Nov 1918; Co C Machine Gun Battalion 5 Brigade 16 Nov 1919; Hampton Roads Va 8 Aug 1919. American Expeditionary Forces 12 Nov 1918 to 30 July 1919. Discharge 13 Aug 1919. Character excellent File no 137736.

Volume #: 22

 

Jeffrey

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