Sivart Posted May 18, 2013 Share #1 Posted May 18, 2013 I recently purchased this rack but I can't figure out what the lower left ribbon is. It looks like the Silver Lifesaving Medal to me, but what is the deal with the wreath? Can anyone help me out with this one? Thanks, Travis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goober Posted May 18, 2013 Share #2 Posted May 18, 2013 It's the Republic of Vietnam Air Service Medal Honor Class. The wreath denotes the class as "honor class". There are four classes of the medal. I attached a picture of Major General Cornelius Nugteren. As you can see from his rack he is wearing the same award on the bottome left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter Posted May 18, 2013 Share #3 Posted May 18, 2013 Look's like the Republic of Vietnam Air Service medal.Nice ribbon rack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRR Posted May 18, 2013 Share #4 Posted May 18, 2013 Wow, that is a fine looking rack! Can you post a picture of the CIB? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivart Posted May 18, 2013 Author Share #5 Posted May 18, 2013 Thanks for the help, I will post better pictures in the CIB thread or custom ribbon rack thread once it arrives. Travis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam R Posted May 18, 2013 Share #6 Posted May 18, 2013 Since we have questions about the ribbons on this rack, what's the one just above the Army of Occupation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivart Posted May 18, 2013 Author Share #7 Posted May 18, 2013 Joint Service Commendation Medal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRR Posted May 18, 2013 Share #8 Posted May 18, 2013 Combat Infantryman Badge Legion of Merit Bronze Star Medal Joint Service Commendation Medal Army Commendation Medal Army Good Conduct Medal (12yr, 4 Knot Device) Army of Occupation Medal National Defense Service Medal (Oak Leaf? Should be a Bronze Star) Korean Service Medal (3 Campaign Stars) Vietnam Service Medal (3 campaign Stars) Armed Forces Reserve Medal Vietnam Honor Medal Republic of Vietnam Air Service Medal (Honor Class) United Nations Service Medal Vietnam Campaign Medal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter Posted May 18, 2013 Share #9 Posted May 18, 2013 Shouldn't the Good Conduct be 15years? the medal=3yrs then 4 knots =12yrs for 15yrs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack's Son Posted May 18, 2013 Share #10 Posted May 18, 2013 That's as beauty for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivart Posted May 18, 2013 Author Share #11 Posted May 18, 2013 Shouldn't the Good Conduct be 15years? the medal=3yrs then 4 knots =12yrs for 15yrs? The ribbon doesn't count once you add a device. A ribbon with no device = 3 yrs. The next step up is a device with two knots which = 6 yrs, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRR Posted May 19, 2013 Share #12 Posted May 19, 2013 I found two things unique about it. The oak leaf on the NDSM and the odd thread count in the Reserve Medal (the outside blue lines should be the same width as the tan). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter Posted May 19, 2013 Share #13 Posted May 19, 2013 At first I wasn't sure about the SVN Air Service medal was that.The outside blue stripe is wider than it should be.Thanks for the info on the GCM loops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11-Bull Posted May 19, 2013 Share #14 Posted May 19, 2013 The Army used oak leaf clusters to denote subsequent awards at one time. I do not know the date when it was changed to a service star. Here is a line from an Army Forum discussion "I think it's also important to stress to our younger members that the awards regulation changes over time. The National Defense Service Medal, for example, used to be worn with a bronze oak leaf cluster to denote subsequent awards - but the reg changed and we now wear a bronze star for subsequent awards." Also I include this pic of a Vietnam SGFC casualty (non-hostile 1968) medals. Note boxed NDSM with oak leaf on medal drape and ribbon bar in upper right hand corner of pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRR Posted May 19, 2013 Share #15 Posted May 19, 2013 Excellent information! I had been suspicious of such thing, but didn't turn up anything in a quick search. Thanks for the picture and info. I wonder if any of the old uniform regulations are published anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11-Bull Posted May 19, 2013 Share #16 Posted May 19, 2013 TRR, forgot to mention in my post, that is a beautiful custom made rack you picked up. Love seeing the more unusual RVN ribbons in U.S. groups. I'm sure someone will post actual regulation change date. I do not have access to my reference material currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRR Posted May 19, 2013 Share #17 Posted May 19, 2013 Sivart picked it up....I was just bored and identified them all. I am just envious of the CIB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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