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USMC medal group

 

Achievement with the V device

Good conduct

National defense.

Iraq campaign with bronze star for participating in one of the 7 phases 

GWOT service and Expeditionary. 

Quality not a match with the good old ones but that doesn't decrease the importance and valuation of his achievement from this era for me.

Simple but effective mounting for quick attachment on the dress tunic. 

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Just what are the current USN regulations for the "V" device? It was termed at one time as not necessarily for valor, but as an indicator of being in action (if I remember correctly), but I think that may have changed.

 

For the Army, it does mean valor in combat.

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On 12/8/2024 at 12:19 PM, atb said:

Just what are the current USN regulations for the "V" device? It was termed at one time as not necessarily for valor, but as an indicator of being in action (if I remember correctly), but I think that may have changed.

 

For the Army, it does mean valor in combat.

I found my answer.

 

"SECNAV M-1650.1, 16 Aug 2019, TAB 13, The "V" Device and PMD for Valor

 

c. Historical Notes

 

(1) From 1946 until 2016, the Navy and Marine Corps called the "V" the Combat Distinguishing Device, or the Combat "V". It signified the awardee had been exposed to personal hazard involving direct participation in combat operations during the period of the award. Many decorations with "V" prior to 2016 were in fact for valor, but some were for meritorious service in a combat environment."

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40 minutes ago, atb said:

I found my answer.

 

"SECNAV M-1650.1, 16 Aug 2019, TAB 13, The "V" Device and PMD for Valor

 

c. Historical Notes

 

(1) From 1946 until 2016, the Navy and Marine Corps called the "V" the Combat Distinguishing Device, or the Combat "V". It signified the awardee had been exposed to personal hazard involving direct participation in combat operations during the period of the award. Many decorations with "V" prior to 2016 were in fact for valor, but some were for meritorious service in a combat environment."

So, apparently after Jan 2016, the "V" only represents valor when awarded. 

collectsmedals
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Regulations regarding award criteria change.

 

For a brief period, from December 7, 1941 to September 2, 1942 the Purple Heart was awarded by the U.S. Army for meritorious service, not just for wounded or killed in action.

Posted
3 minutes ago, collectsmedals said:

Regulations regarding award criteria change.

 

For a brief period, from December 7, 1941 to September 2, 1942 the Purple Heart was awarded by the U.S. Army for meritorious service, not just for wounded or killed in action.

I believe it was done well before that as well. 

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1 hour ago, atb said:

I believe it was done well before that as well. 

If I remember right, WW1 Meritorious Service Certificates could be converted to Purple Heart Medals. I know of one meritorious service Purple Heart awarded to an officer for duty with the CCC.

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22 minutes ago, atb said:

If I remember right, WW1 Meritorious Service Certificates could be converted to Purple Heart Medals. I know of one meritorious service Purple Heart awarded to an officer for duty with the CCC.

I have 2 for WWI Service in my collection.

 

Bill

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23 minutes ago, atb said:

If I remember right, WW1 Meritorious Service Certificates could be converted to Purple Heart Medals. I know of one meritorious service Purple Heart awarded to an officer for duty with the CCC.

The original regulations from 1932 say-

 

"For acts or services performed prior to February 22. 1932, the Purple Heart is confined to those persons, who, as members of the Army, were awarded the Meritorious Services Citation Certificate by the Commander-in-Chief, American Expeditionary Forces, or who were wounded in action in any war or campaign under conditions which entitle them to wear a wound chevron. 

 

For acts or services performed subsequent to February 22, 1932, the decoration is authorized to be awarded to persons who, while serving in the Army of the United States, perform any singularly meritorious act of extraordinary fidelity or essential service."

 

(From Military Medals and Insignia of the United States by J. McDowell Morgan, Griffin-Patterson Publishing Co., Gendale, CA, 1941).

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On 12/10/2024 at 5:25 PM, atb said:

So, apparently after Jan 2016, the "V" only represents valor when awarded. 

You are right from 2016 they created the C device for combat.  In this case given the awards he should receive it during OIF for valor or combat

 

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On 12/10/2024 at 11:25 AM, atb said:

So, apparently after Jan 2016, the "V" only represents valor when awarded. 

The "V" ceased to be authorized after 2016.

 

I personally believe was a casualty of the service's obsession with making a drone-specific award. Originally a medal was proposed that would be worn above the Bronze Star and Purple Heart. This understandably drew the ire of ground combat arms. That idea was scrapped and the next thing you know, the 75 year old V device was dead and replaced with a "C" for those in direct combat and an "R" for those operating remotely.

 

Dumb

Posted
45 minutes ago, Brig said:

The "V" ceased to be authorized after 2016.

 

I personally believe was a casualty of the service's obsession with making a drone-specific award. Originally a medal was proposed that would be worn above the Bronze Star and Purple Heart. This understandably drew the ire of ground combat arms. That idea was scrapped and the next thing you know, the 75 year old V device was dead and replaced with a "C" for those in direct combat and an "R" for those operating remotely.

 

Dumb

That's for the Navy only, right? I thought the "V" was reserved for actual valor in 2016 by the Navy. That's what the rest of that 2019 SECNAV document I found seemed to say.

Posted
24 minutes ago, atb said:

That's for the Navy only, right? I thought the "V" was reserved for actual valor in 2016 by the Navy. That's what the rest of that 2019 SECNAV document I found seemed to say.

I reread the 2019 SECNAV document, and the "V" device is still authorized for certain awards to show valor.

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