teufelhunde.ret Posted April 6, 2013 Share #26 Posted April 6, 2013 Prior to the 1830’s, US Navy buttons were of a one-piece design, and were flat or slightly convex. They were beautiful buttons, most had the familiar eagle & anchor, some of the earlier ones had only an anchor. Some were American made, but there were many beautiful British made buttons too. (source: Record Of American Uniform And Historical Buttons, by Alphaeus H. Albert) The ones pictured are from my collection (with Albert’s reference number under); with a close-up of one of my favorites (it was hard to pick just one…). A very informative thread! There is discussion and pics on a few websites, sighting this particular button "with fowled anchor" were used on the dress uniforms of Marine Officers during the period. Thanks for starting a great thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot12 Posted April 6, 2013 Share #27 Posted April 6, 2013 Great informative thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dag Posted April 7, 2013 Author Share #28 Posted April 7, 2013 Thanks for the positive comments. I was hoping this information might be of interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumpin Jack Posted April 7, 2013 Share #29 Posted April 7, 2013 Dag, thank you for a very informative and enlightening bit of Americana. Thank your for broadening our knowledge with your labor of love. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
American Graffiti Posted April 15, 2013 Share #30 Posted April 15, 2013 Really interesting, and cool. I love old buttons, thanks for posting. AG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skautdog Posted April 16, 2013 Share #31 Posted April 16, 2013 dag, Very informative and an amazing collection. Thanks for sharing! Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTLewisBrat Posted April 21, 2013 Share #32 Posted April 21, 2013 Very helpful info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontStartMeTalkin Posted April 22, 2013 Share #33 Posted April 22, 2013 great thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutiger83 Posted April 22, 2013 Share #34 Posted April 22, 2013 Very interesting thread. Thanks so much for taking the time to post this information. ....Kat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenchbuff Posted April 22, 2013 Share #35 Posted April 22, 2013 A wonderful resource! Thanks for posting all the great info and photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP25 Posted April 27, 2013 Share #36 Posted April 27, 2013 Great Information - thank you for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riflegreen297 Posted September 28, 2013 Share #37 Posted September 28, 2013 Superb, this thread has helped me greatly. Very informative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leatherwringer Posted September 28, 2013 Share #38 Posted September 28, 2013 Great information! Thanks for the bump, I missed this the first time around! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitter2k1 Posted September 28, 2013 Share #39 Posted September 28, 2013 This is a great reference. I don't know how I missed it the first time around. Well done! Mike M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayg Posted September 28, 2013 Share #40 Posted September 28, 2013 Great button education. Thanks for posting it, Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senhoragua Posted April 15, 2014 Share #41 Posted April 15, 2014 It is worth mentioning that the silver buttons were worn by mess stewards. There were also distinctive buttons for some of the various US Army transportation organizations. Pictured are some examples of some of these organizations: United States Army Transport Service (2 different versions); United States Army Transport Corps; Military Sea Transport Service (2 versions) (sources: Maritime and Aviation; Transportation Uniform Buttons Vol.3, by Don Van Court; Record Of American Uniform And Historical Buttons, by Alphaeus H. Albert) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dag Posted April 16, 2014 Author Share #42 Posted April 16, 2014 It is worth mentioning that the silver buttons were worn by mess stewards. Thanks for the tip - I did not know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WS60 Posted December 30, 2014 Share #43 Posted December 30, 2014 Many thanks for interesting material Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_rambow Posted December 30, 2014 Share #44 Posted December 30, 2014 Sorry for posting in an old topic (which is very informative), but from your posts it seems that all post 1902 buttons that are not the federal pattern were not official? I know many if not all states had post 1902 bronzed buttons with state seals, but I can’t seem to find any information on them.For example, here is a NJ National Guard button which I am having a difficult time pinning down with respect to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dag Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share #45 Posted December 30, 2014 Can you provide a picture of the back? Best way to date a button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_rambow Posted January 3, 2015 Share #46 Posted January 3, 2015 Here is the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WS60 Posted January 11, 2015 Share #47 Posted January 11, 2015 Can you help with identification of this button? Waterbury Button Co. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WS60 Posted January 11, 2015 Share #48 Posted January 11, 2015 avers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dag Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share #49 Posted January 11, 2015 Sorry for posting in an old topic (which is very informative), but from your posts it seems that all post 1902 buttons that are not the federal pattern were not official? I know many if not all states had post 1902 bronzed buttons with state seals, but I can’t seem to find any information on them. For example, here is a NJ National Guard button which I am having a difficult time pinning down with respect to date. Dr_rambow: Sorry for not responding earlier - somehow missed your reply with the picture of your New Jersey National Guard (Infantry) button back. That Scovill backmark dates 1880's-1900 per Tice's book Dating Buttons A Chronology of Button Types, Maker, Retailers & Their Backmarks. So it pre-dates the US Army conversion to a common button ~1902. By the way, in Albert's book, this button is reference number NJ 17B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dag Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share #50 Posted January 11, 2015 Can you help with identification of this button? Waterbury Button Co. Your button is US Navy Chief Petty officer. Per Albert's book, reference number NA 131B. Appears to be a smaller size, maybe around 18mm, therefore "vest" size. It appears to have an abbreviated Waterbury backmark (due to lack of space); usually would have some variation of "Waterbury Conn" as part of the backmark to help further date the button. Smaller cuff & vest sizes are sometimes harder to date as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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