The Mighty Atom Posted March 14, 2013 Share #1 Posted March 14, 2013 I think this is the right forum for this question. OK, here's one I could really use help with, an aluminum plaque on mahogany, 83rd what? Sqn, division? Clearly something to do with Submarines. Any help is appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsaye Posted March 14, 2013 Share #2 Posted March 14, 2013 Don't believe that is submarines . Looks like a mine sweeping paravane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyCanteen Posted March 14, 2013 Share #3 Posted March 14, 2013 It sure does, good eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwb123 Posted March 14, 2013 Share #4 Posted March 14, 2013 Does the black and red striped flag signify anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topdcnut Posted March 14, 2013 Share #5 Posted March 14, 2013 I was going to say VSD but I will defer to paravane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Atom Posted March 14, 2013 Author Share #6 Posted March 14, 2013 Good one Sigsaye. Very well spotted. You're right, a jaw that cuts moored mine tethers, paravanes and the towing lug. I missed all that. Just by coincidence though, I have the plaque for MinDiv83 and this is it. I'm selling it on ebay right now. From what I understand about US minesweeping, it's done by 4 ship groups, within a division. I can't see there being a Mine Squadron 83, a google search doesn't turn anything like that up. Hmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvage Sailor Posted March 14, 2013 Share #7 Posted March 14, 2013 Does the black and red striped flag signify anything? Yep, The float’s flag, with black and red horizontal stripes, indicates whether a port or starboard sweep is being conducted. A black stripe on top indicates a starboard sweep; a red stripe on top indicates a port sweep. This plaque may be from a NATO minesweeper or squadron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hink441 Posted March 14, 2013 Share #8 Posted March 14, 2013 Good one Sigsaye. Very well spotted. You're right, a jaw that cuts moored mine tethers, paravanes and the towing lug. I missed all that. Just by coincidence though, I have the plaque for MinDiv83 and this is it. I'm selling it on ebay right now. From what I understand about US minesweeping, it's done by 4 ship groups, within a division. I can't see there being a Mine Squadron 83, a google search doesn't turn anything like that up. Hmmm. It is probably a different design for the same Mine Division 83. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Atom Posted March 14, 2013 Author Share #9 Posted March 14, 2013 I can't really see a formation changing a badge once they've designed one. They get pretty hung up on that stuff and subsequent badges are often just variations on older ones. Still, never say never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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