puff Posted December 8, 2014 Share #26 Posted December 8, 2014 Unfortunately, I don't have this book. I will be curious to see this model 616... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Camouflage Pattern I Posted November 27, 2022 Share #27 Posted November 27, 2022 On 12/8/2014 at 9:26 AM, puff said: I've discovered this pic two days ago and I was then very surprise! I can assume with this better quality pic that the handguard is well an A2 one. Probably tested in a very short number in Vietnam... Where did this photo come from, what is it captioned? These handguards can be seen on these rifles shown in ARMY magazine's 1967 Green Book, published October 1967. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Camouflage Pattern I Posted November 27, 2022 Share #28 Posted November 27, 2022 I threw in the towel too early, still have not found the original image but I did find the image the second angle was cropped from. 428-K-74896 "Vietnam…Members of a U.S. Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team man their weapons as they prepare to come ashore from a river patrol boat (PBR) at an operation site." October 1968. US Navy Photo from the National Archives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puff Posted November 27, 2022 Share #29 Posted November 27, 2022 This is SEAL Team 2 - 9th Platoon (same Platoon than the colour pic, few seconde later). Another one was used among ST-1 Alpha Platoon in 1968-69. This prototype handguard was tested by the Research and Engineering Division of Springfield Armory in 1966, so probably developed in 1966. I assume a handful of those were field tested in Vietnam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puff Posted November 27, 2022 Share #30 Posted November 27, 2022 I cropped the pic from this photo (US Navy): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cap Camouflage Pattern I Posted November 28, 2022 Share #32 Posted November 28, 2022 4 hours ago, puff said: This is SEAL Team 2 - 9th Platoon (same Platoon than the colour pic, few seconde later). Another one was used among ST-1 Alpha Platoon in 1968-69. This prototype handguard was tested by the Research and Engineering Division of Springfield Armory in 1966, so probably developed in 1966. I assume a handful of those were field tested in Vietnam. Thanks! These were posted on M14forum, unfortunately the poster did not say what report they originated from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Camouflage Pattern I Posted November 28, 2022 Share #33 Posted November 28, 2022 Not only did I completely overlook it in the Green Book before I stumbled across this thread, but also in this fact sheet for the XM148 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puff Posted November 28, 2022 Share #34 Posted November 28, 2022 This last document is very interesting. Thanks for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted December 25, 2022 Share #35 Posted December 25, 2022 I have another pic of the same guy taken from behind him that clearly shows the round handguards. puff, do you have a pic of the round handguard you say was used with Alfa platoon(Dirty Dozen) 68? I have a bunch of pics from the DD series and I haven't seen the round handguards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregMac Posted December 25, 2022 Share #36 Posted December 25, 2022 XM177E2 was popular with SEALs and Special Forces 1968 from my copy of The Black Riffle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregMac Posted December 25, 2022 Share #37 Posted December 25, 2022 XM177E2 was popular with SEALs and Special Forces 1968 from my copy of The Black Riffle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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