Kilroy56 Posted January 3, 2013 Share #1 Posted January 3, 2013 Here is a set of ATC wings marked Whitehead & Hoag. I heard these badges were faked in the 80's. Your thoughts would be welcomed. Thank you and enjoy the balance of your day. Kilroy56 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pconrad02 Posted January 3, 2013 Share #2 Posted January 3, 2013 Kilroy, Havng been, at one time, really into ATC wings, I would say that I always stayed away from WH ATC wings. It is my understanding that the 80's re-strikes were done off original dies, using the correct hardware, often on Whitehead and Hoag cards. The picture wings look to be mint , a real warning flag for me. The hinge also looks a little "light weight". I personally would pass on these, but that is just my opition. paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilroy56 Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share #3 Posted January 3, 2013 Kilroy, Havng been, at one time, really into ATC wings, I would say that I always stayed away from WH ATC wings. It is my understanding that the 80's re-strikes were done off original dies, using the correct hardware, often on Whitehead and Hoag cards. The picture wings look to be mint , a real warning flag for me. The hinge also looks a little "light weight". I personally would pass on these, but that is just my opition. paul Thank you Paul. Your website is a reference for collectors. But I have just been said these wings were actually manufactured by Wright & Street... Regards, Kilroy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfrost Posted January 3, 2013 Share #4 Posted January 3, 2013 I would agree with Kilroy, I don' think this is a Whitehead and Hoag hallmark. I tried to find a good picture of the Wright & Street Inc hallmark and it isn't the same as this one. Maybe we can get a better close up? From what I recall, the WH restrikes were made of a different metal. These look good to me, but I am pretty ignorant of the ATC stuff. Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pconrad02 Posted January 4, 2013 Share #5 Posted January 4, 2013 Yes that doesn't look like a WH hallmark any way to get a better pic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilroy56 Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share #6 Posted January 4, 2013 Yes that doesn't look like a WH hallmark any way to get a better pic? Here we are Gentlemen. Your assistance is greatly appreciated. Best, Kilroy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Herd Posted January 4, 2013 Share #7 Posted January 4, 2013 I saw a fake ATC wing back in the 1980's, the color was too light and you could see that it was cast on the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram957 Posted January 4, 2013 Share #8 Posted January 4, 2013 I have an Aerial Mail Pilot wing with the same hallmark.....I've always believed it was Whitehead & Hoag. I was never sure or the authenticity of the wing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram957 Posted January 4, 2013 Share #9 Posted January 4, 2013 Front of wing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilroy56 Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share #10 Posted January 4, 2013 I have an Aerial Mail Pilot wing with the same hallmark.....I've always believed it was Whitehead & Hoag. I was never sure or the authenticity of the wing... Hello, That's the same hallmark for sure. As for the authenticity of both wings.... Best regards from West Brittany, Kilroy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfrost Posted January 29, 2013 Share #11 Posted January 29, 2013 I intended to follow up on this thread earlier, but it slipped my mind until today. Originally, I had some question as to who the hallmark was for; Whitehead and Hoag or Wright & Street. It seems that I was initially wrong, and the hallmark on this wing is actually the hallmark for Whitehead and Hoag Co. as can be seen on this vintage box top. Whitehead and Hoag also used another hallmark of a WH in a shield (the one I am more familiar with). In my experience, the WH in a shield hallmark were on the (what I believe) reproduction ATC wings and not this more stylized hallmark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilroy56 Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share #12 Posted January 29, 2013 Thank you so much for these most interesting information Patrick. Best regards, D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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