Flashlarue Posted December 22, 2012 Share #1 Posted December 22, 2012 I need help identifying the last ribbon on this rack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KurtA Posted December 22, 2012 Share #2 Posted December 22, 2012 The Bronze Lion Decoration, as awarded by The Netherlands for bravery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APO472 Posted December 22, 2012 Share #3 Posted December 22, 2012 Kurt A is dead on and actually quite an un-common award to Paratroopers in WWII. Jake Powers www.Heroesinourmidst.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY Militaria Posted December 22, 2012 Share #4 Posted December 22, 2012 Beautiful embroidered rack! What is the backstory on it? Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter Posted December 22, 2012 Share #5 Posted December 22, 2012 Nice find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KurtA Posted December 22, 2012 Share #6 Posted December 22, 2012 If you don't yet have an ID, this link may help. (Assuming he was in the 508th PIR). Given he was in prior to WW2 (American Def Ribbon) and thus had some years in the Army prior to Market Garden, my guess would be he was one of the LTC's. http://www.508pir.org/honors/citations/dutch_lion.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
custer1 Posted December 22, 2012 Share #7 Posted December 22, 2012 Then (1944) Col Sink of 506th was awared the same Dutch Decoration. The "Bronze Lion" was instituted on 30 March 1944 as an award to hose who distinguished themselves in action against the enemy by performing especially brave and meritorious acts. Could be awarded to civilians and foreigners. It is the second highest award for gallantry. That from "Orders and Decorations of the Netherlands" by Meijer, Mulder, and Wagenaar. That source does not say it is an officer only award. I think a very attractive full sized medal. JimB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KurtA Posted December 22, 2012 Share #8 Posted December 22, 2012 Then (1944) Col Sink of 506th was awared the same Dutch Decoration. That source does not say it is an officer only award. . JimB Based on the link I pasted, it certainly isn't. 4 of the 8 paratroopers listed were EM's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom2001 Posted December 22, 2012 Share #9 Posted December 22, 2012 http://www.onderscheidingen.nl/decorandi/wo2/us/us01.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom2001 Posted December 22, 2012 Share #10 Posted December 22, 2012 Doing a quick cut and paste from the web site, here's a list of possibles. I think you can eliminate most of the higher ranking recipients, as they's probably have more U.S. personal awards than two Bronze Stars Barnhardt, Charles E. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October 1945 Private, 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 219 ; Decorare 8 p. 35 Bell, Glenn Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 van 8 October 1945 Staff Sergeant, 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 219 ; Decorare 8 p. 35 Berry, John T. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October 1945 Major, 1st Battalion, 504th P.I.R., 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 220 ; Decorare 8 p. 35 Blake, Clarence Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October 1945 Sergeant 1st class, 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 220 ; Decorare 8 p. 35 Bottomly, R.V., Jr. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 35 of 14 November 1946 Lieutenant Colonel, U.S. 101st Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 220 Broadway, E.E. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 35 of 14 November 1946 Corporal, U.S. 101st Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 221 Brown, W.H. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 26 of 17 October 1946 Major, U.S. Army Air Force Source: BL/BK p. 221 Churchill, James R. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October 1945 Private 1st class, 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 221 ; Decorare 8 p. 35 Combs, Rex G. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October 1945 1st Lieutenant, 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 221 ; Decorare 8 p. 35 Conner, R.E. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 26 of 17 October 1946 Lieutenant Colonel, U.S. Army Air Force Source: BL/BK p. 221 Corsetti, J. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 26 of 17 October 1946 1st Lieutenant, U.S. Army Air Force Bron: BL/BK blz. 221 Dagon, William M. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 11 of 22 February 1946 Staff Sergeant, 82nd Airborne Division Tijdens de gevechten van de 82ste Airborne Division in de omgeving van NIJMEGEN in de maanden September en October 1944 zich onderscheiden door het bedrijven van moedige en beleidvolle daden. In alle opzichten een loffelijk voorbeeld gegeven onder zeer moeilijke omstandigheden. Source: BL/BK p. 222 ; Decorare 8 p. 35 ; with special thanks to Mr. H.J. Huisman Dawkins, C.H. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 26 of 19 October 1946 (posthume) 2nd Lieutenant, U.S. Army Air Force Source: BL/BK p. 222 Delong, Walter C. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October 1945 Major, 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 222 ; Decorare 8 p. 35 Draper, Arthur R. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October 1945 1st Lieutenant, 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 222 ; Decorare 8 p. 35 Ekman, William Emmett Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 11 of 22 February 1946 Colonel, commander of the 505th P.I.R., 82nd Airborne Division Tijdens de gevechten van de 82ste Airborne Division in de omgeving van NIJMEGEN in de maanden September en October 1944 zich onderscheiden door het bedrijven van moedige en beleidvolle daden. In alle opzichten een loffelijk voorbeeld gegeven onder zeer moeilijke omstandigheden. Source: BL/BK p. 223 ; Decorare 8 p. 35 (gives initials as W.K.) ; Wiegand p. 32 (unclear which Belgian award was given) ; with special thanks to Mr. H.J. Huisman Ewell, Julian J. Known awards: BL,LB.4+p,BOK+p Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 35 of 14 November 1946 Colonel, 501st Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 223 ; Wiegand p. 33 Ferrone, Daniel L. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October 1945 Staff Sergeant, 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 223 ; Decorare 8 p. 35 Gonzales, Raymond Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October, 1945 Private 1st class, 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 223 ; Decorare 8 p. 35 Gorham, Fordyce Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October 1945 Captain, R-2 HQ Staff, 504th P.I.R., 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 224 (claims rank to be Major) ; Decorare 8 p. 35 Griffith, Wilbur M. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October 1945 Colonel, commander 376th Parachute Field Artillery Battalion, 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 224 (claims rank to be Lieutenant-Colonel) ; Decorare 8 p. 35 Gutshall, John D. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no 31 of 8 October 1945 2nd Lieutenant, U.S. 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 224 ; Decorare 8 p. 35 Harper, J.H. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 35 of 14 November 1946 Colonel, 101st Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 224 Harris, Burton L. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October 1945 Staff Sergeant, 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 224 ; Decorare 8 p. 35 Hart, Arthur S. Known awards: BK Bronzen Kruis Bronze Cross Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October, 1945 Major, 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 254 ; Decorare 8 p. 35 Hayes, Warren G. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 11 of 22 February, 1946 Staff Sergeant, U.S. 82nd Airborne Division Tijdens de gevechten van de 82ste Airborne Division in de omgeving van NIJMEGEN in de maanden September en October 1944 zich onderscheiden door het bedrijven van moedige en beleidvolle daden. In alle opzichten een loffelijk voorbeeld gegeven onder zeer moeilijke omstandigheden. Source: BL/BK p. 224 ; Decorare 8 p. 35 ; with special thanks to Mr. H.J. Huisman Hirsch, Marvin J. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 11 of 22 February 1946 Staff Sergeant, 3rd Battalion, 504th P.I.R., 82nd Airborne Division Tijdens de gevechten van de 82ste Airborne Division in de omgeving van NIJMEGEN in de maanden September en October 1944 zich onderscheiden door het bedrijven van moedige en beleidvolle daden. In alle opzichten een loffelijk voorbeeld gegeven onder zeer moeilijke omstandigheden. Source: BL/BK p. 225 ; Decorare 8 p. 35 ; with special thanks to Mr. H.J. Huisman Holmes, Otho E. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October 1945 Major, commander 2nd Battalion, 508th P.I.R., 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 225 ; Decorare 8 p. 35 Hupp, Robert W. Died at Laurel, Delaware, on 5 November, 1991. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October, 1945 Technician 5th grade, 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 226 ; Decorare 8 p. 35 ; Jasak, John R. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October, 1945 Private First Class, 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 226 ; Decorare 8 p. 35 Source: BL/BK p. 258 Kaiser, James L. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October, 1945 Lieutenant-Colonel, Batallion commander, 3rd Batallion, 505th P.I.R., 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 226 ; Decorare 8 p. 35 Kennedy, E.D. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 35 of 14 November, 1946 Lieutenant Colonel, U.S. Army Source: BL/BK p. 226 Leahy, Osmund A. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 11 of 22 February, 1946 Lieutenant-Colonel, Batallion commander, 3rd Batallion, 325th Glider Infantry Regiment, 82nd Airborne Division Tijdens de gevechten van de 82ste Airborne Division in de omgeving van NIJMEGEN in de maanden September en October 1944 zich onderscheiden door het bedrijven van moedige en beleidvolle daden. In alle opzichten een loffelijk voorbeeld gegeven onder zeer moeilijke omstandigheden. Source: BL/BK p. 228 ; Decorare 8 p. 35 ; with special thanks to Mr. H.J. Huisman Lilley, Fred R. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October, 1945 Private, 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 228 ; Decorare 8 p. 35 Lindquist, Roy E. Died at St. Petersburg, Florida, on 19 November, 1986. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 11 of 22 February, 1946 Colonel, Regimental commander, 508th P.I.R., 82nd Airborne Division Tijdens de gevechten van de 82ste Airborne Division in de omgeving van NIJMEGEN in de maanden September en October 1944 zich onderscheiden door het bedrijven van moedige en beleidvolle daden. In alle opzichten een loffelijk voorbeeld gegeven onder zeer moeilijke omstandigheden. Source: BL/BK p. 228 ; Decorare 8 p. 35 ; www.508pir.org Lodge, Albert H. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October, 1945 Private First Class, 82nd Airborne Division Tijdens de gevechten van de 82ste Airborne Division in de omgeving van NIJMEGEN in de maanden September en October 1944 zich onderscheiden door het bedrijven van moedige en beleidvolle daden. In alle opzichten een loffelijk voorbeeld gegeven onder zeer moeilijke omstandigheden. Source: BL/BK p. 228 ; Decorare 8 p. 35 Long, Talton W. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October, 1945 Lieutenant-Colonel, Batallion commander, 1st Batallion, 505th P.I.R., 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 228 ; Decorare 8 p. 36 (gives rank as Major) Manning, John R. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October, 1945 Captain, 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 229 ; Decorare 8 p. 36 March, Francis A. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 11 of 22 February, 1946 Brigadier General, Divisional Artillery Commander, 82nd Airborne Division Tijdens de gevechten van de 82ste Airborne Division in de omgeving van NIJMEGEN in de maanden September en October 1944 zich onderscheiden door het bedrijven van moedige en beleidvolle daden. In alle opzichten een loffelijk voorbeeld gegeven onder zeer moeilijke omstandigheden. Source: BL/BK p. 229 ; Decorare 8 p. 36 ; with special thanks to Mr. H.J. Huisman Matheson, S.H. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 35 of 14 November, 1946 Major, U.S. Army Source: BL/BK p. 229 Mayo, Arthur A. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October, 1945 Sergeant First Class, 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 229 ; Decorare 8 p. 36 McAuliffe, Arthur Clement Known awards: LB.3,BL,BOK.p Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 35 of 14 November, 1946 Brigadier-General, U.S. 101st Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 229 ; Wiegand p. 64 Mendez, Louis Gonzaga, Junior Born 14 July, 1915. Died at Falls Church, Virginia, on 19 September, 2001. Known awards: DSO,BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October, 1945 Lieutenant-Colonel, Batallion Commander, 3rd Batallion, 508th P.I.R., 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 229 ; Decorare 8 p. 36 ; www.508pir.org Michaelis, John H. Known awards: BL,BOK.p Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 35 of 14 November, 1946 Colonel, U.S. 101st Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 229 ; Wiegand p. 66 Nau, Charles E. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October, 1945 Corporal, 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 230 ; Decorare 8 p. 36 Nelson, Raymond L. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October, 1945 Sergeant First Class, 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 230 ; Decorare 8 p. 36 Pierce, Wayne W. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October, 1945 Captain, Company Commander, C Company, 325th G.I.R., 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 231 ; Decorare 8 p. 36 Psaki, Nicholas G. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October, 1945 First Lieutenant, 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 231 ; Decorare 8 p. 36 Rhodess, Th. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 35 of 14 November, 1946 Private First Class, U.S. Army Source: BL/BK p. 232 Risnes, Marvin L. Died at Fayettville, North Carolina, on 13 December, 1993. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October, 1945 Sergeant, 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 232 ; Decorare 8 p. 36 ; www.508pir.org Roberts, E.B. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 35 of 14 November, 1946 Major, 101st Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 232 Sanford, Teddy H. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October, 1945 Lieutenant-Colonel, Batallion Commander, 1st Batallion, 325th G.I.R., 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 232 ; Decorare 8 p. 36 Sartain, Charles L., Junior Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October, 1945 Captain, 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 232 ; Decorare 8 p. 36 Sherburne, T.L., Junior Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no.35 of 14 November, 1946 Colonel, 101st Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 233 Simmons, Levi Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October, 1945 Private, 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 233 ; Decorare 8 p. 36 Sink, Robert F. Known awards: LB.4p,BL,BOK.p Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 35 of 14 November, 1946 Colonel, officer commanding the 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 233 ; Wiegand p. 87 Smilley, John W. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October, 1945 Lieutenant-Colonel, 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 233 ; Decorare 8 p. 36 Source: BL/BK p. 281 Starr, Donald R. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October, 1945 Sergeant, 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 233 ; Decorare 8 p. 36 Stokely, Dave R. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October, 1945 Major, 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 234 ; Decorare 8 p. 36 Vandervoort, Benjamin H. Born at Gasport, New York, on 3 March, 1917. Died 22 November, 1990. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October, 1945 Lieutenant-Colonel, Batallion Commander, 2nd Batallion, 505th P.I.R., 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 235 ; Decorare 8 p. 36 Wallace, George V. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 11 of 22 February, 1946 Private First Class, 82nd Airborne Division Tijdens de gevechten van de 82ste Airborne Division in de omgeving van NIJMEGEN in de maanden September en October 1944 zich onderscheiden door het bedrijven van moedige en beleidvolle daden. In alle opzichten een loffelijk voorbeeld gegeven onder zeer moeilijke omstandigheden. Source: BL/BK p. 236 ; Decorare 8 p. 36 ; with special thanks to Mr. H.J. Huisman Warren, Shields, Junior Born 21 March, 1916. Died at Raleigh, North Carolina, on 26 January, 1994. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October, 1945 Lieutenant-Colonel, Batallion Commander, 1st Batallion, 508th P.I.R., 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 236 ; Decorare 8 p. 36 www.508pir.org Wellems, Edward N. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October, 1945 Lieutenant-Colonel, Batallion Commander, 2nd Batallion, 504th P.I.R., 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 236 ; Decorare 8 p. 36 Weller, William E. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October, 1945 Private, 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 236 ; Decorare 8 p. 36 White, James A. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October, 1945 Captain, Company Commander, E Company, 325th G.I.R., 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 236 ; Decorare 8 p. 36 Wilde, Russel C. Died at Tucson, Arizona, on 10 October, 1998. Known awards: BL Bronzen Leeuw Bronze Lion Royal Decree no. 31 of 8 October, 1945 Captain, Company Commander, G Company, 3rd Batallion, 508th P.I.R., 82nd Airborne Division Source: BL/BK p. 236 ; Decorare 8 p. 36 ; www.508pir.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
custer1 Posted December 22, 2012 Share #11 Posted December 22, 2012 I need help identifying the last ribbon on this rack. On the EAME ribbon, are those devices an Invasion Arrowhead (upside down?), a silver campaign star, and a bronze campaign star? If so, and I realize most all of us know this, the recipient was credited with 6 ETO campaigns. That should provide a bit of direction on possible owners. Without looking, I'm not sure how many campaign credits the 82nd or its attached units garnered. But generally speaking, 101st Abn men would have a max of four campaign credits (if they served in all four credited campaigns). So I think that would suggest the rack wearer was not 101st. Merry Christmas to all, JimB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim2 Posted December 22, 2012 Share #12 Posted December 22, 2012 On post #14 on the below thread is a custom ribbon bar on a uniform I have of a 505th trooper who earned this same decoration as a staff sgt. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/4777-custom-ribbon-bars-any-era/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakepuke Posted December 23, 2012 Share #13 Posted December 23, 2012 Nice Rack! If you want to identify the recipient I think you need more information than just only the ribbon rack.... Looking at the figures; 87 Bronze Lions were awarded to Americans. 17 awards were made to the USN, 4 to the USAF and the rest, 66, were made to the army. All 66 Bronze Lions that were awarded to the army were made for actions during Market Garden and almost all were paratroopers. No real way to peal it down to one person I am afraid..... If you, for instance, only would have the rank of the recipient, the selection of the person would be much easier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashlarue Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share #14 Posted December 24, 2012 Here is all I know about the rack. It belonged to an officer from the 82nd ABN. I know this because a second matching rack is on a uniform in the booth at the antique mall which has a 82nd patch on the right shoulder. There are a total of four officer dress uniforms with the 82nd combat patch all are tailor made in Texas and none have a name or rank on them. One of the uniforms is tan and the rest are all the modern green color. It is believed they uniforms came from an estate sale in Texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashlarue Posted December 25, 2012 Author Share #15 Posted December 25, 2012 I supose this would have been the rack he wore home from WWII as it doesn't have awards which would have been added after 1945. Since most of the uniforms are like the current issue I am sure he would have had additional awards which could not be added to a custom bar. There was no Ike style jackets in the group. One of the uniforms has an orange lanyard for the Order of The Orange Lanyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtdorango Posted December 25, 2012 Share #16 Posted December 25, 2012 Thats pretty cool, if i were you i would either go back and buy the rest of the stuff to keep it togther as a group or at least go back and take pics of everything or examine the other uniforms for a name or ID if possible....mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom2001 Posted December 25, 2012 Share #17 Posted December 25, 2012 I supose this would have been the rack he wore home from WWII as it doesn't have awards which would have been added after 1945. Since most of the uniforms are like the current issue I am sure he would have had additional awards which could not be added to a custom bar. There was no Ike style jackets in the group. One of the uniforms has an orange lanyard for the Order of The Orange Lanyard. The presence of the Bronze Lion ribbon (1st awarded Oct 1945) and the Occupation ribbon (first awarded 1947) would indicate the rack wasn't made up until after 1947. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashlarue Posted December 25, 2012 Author Share #18 Posted December 25, 2012 The 82nd returned stateside in January 1946. So is the occupation ribbon correct for the 82nd? Or was he maybe assigned to another unit before coming home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom2001 Posted December 25, 2012 Share #19 Posted December 25, 2012 The 82nd returned stateside in January 1946. So is the occupation ribbon correct for the 82nd? Or was he maybe assigned to another unit before coming home? Yes, 30 days of occupation service entitled you to the medal, even retroactively. My point is, with multiple identical ribbon bars (at least 2 including the one still at the antique mall), he was most likely still in service in 1947. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman v Posted December 25, 2012 Share #20 Posted December 25, 2012 I think ID-ing the ribbons is a possibility. The Bronzen Leeuw (as we Dutch call it) was awarded to the 82nd and the 101st ABN division. The facts now are: - 82nd ABN division - Officer - Texas Wead out the known ribbon racks, like Lcol Vandervoort and perhaps a name pops out. Good luck and keep the info coming. FYI a few Bronzen Leeuwen were awarded to Dutch army personell for Afghanistan. Regards Herman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakepuke Posted December 25, 2012 Share #21 Posted December 25, 2012 Hey Herman, You also found your way to this forum I see... Back to the ribbon bar; Herman is right when selecting on the 82nd and officers, no problem there. The tricky part are the last 2 criteria, finding out the home state and eliminating know ribbon racks... But we will give it a try. The following 27 names are all 82nd Airborne Division officers who were decorated with the Bronze Lion: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman v Posted December 25, 2012 Share #22 Posted December 25, 2012 Now remove all DSC and Legion of Merit recipients. Another 10 or so gone. Herman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakepuke Posted December 25, 2012 Share #23 Posted December 25, 2012 At first sight I agree but looking at is very critically I think there is a flaw in your reasoning. What if the recipient received his Distinguished Service Cross, Silver Star of Legion of Merit after receiving his occupation medal (1947)? By just elimination everybody with a decoration that is not shown here in this group you may delete the wearer of this rack as well, or am I wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman v Posted December 25, 2012 Share #24 Posted December 25, 2012 Hmmm, I see your point. Look at it this way, by eliminating everybody with additional valor awards one can narrow it down to perhaps one name. If a mistake is made in this process, just head back to the point of the mistake and try again. What is there to lose...... A list with 27 candidates as a startingpoint doesn't look like a lot of work IMHO. Lets take Lcol Ben Vandervoort for instance. He also had a French Croix de Guerre and two Purple Hearts. IMO he can be taken from the shortlist. And offcourse you can delete all KIA's aswell. I think that flashlarue should go back to the shop with the uniforms and give us more info, and perhaps some pictures, on them. If the rank on the postwar uniform is lets say Major, you can rule out all with a higher rank. Just my two pence. regards Herman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman v Posted December 25, 2012 Share #25 Posted December 25, 2012 Snakepuke, I shall go through my papers at home the coming days to shorten the list of 27. Just to give you a touch with regard to this topic, look what i bought a couple of years back. Its Colonel Charles 'Chuck' Billingslea uniform of around 1953 - 1955 sporting a ribbon of the Dutch Militaire Willems Orde, Ridder 4e klasse (Knight 4th class). regards Herman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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