vostoktrading Posted December 17, 2012 Share #1 Posted December 17, 2012 I found these incredible photos on the Time/Life photo source online: Datestamp November/December 1941 Carl Mydans photographer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vostoktrading Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share #2 Posted December 17, 2012 More: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vostoktrading Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share #3 Posted December 17, 2012 And more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vostoktrading Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share #4 Posted December 17, 2012 Pilot cadets?! How's that for an armband...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vostoktrading Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share #5 Posted December 17, 2012 + more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vostoktrading Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share #6 Posted December 17, 2012 What is a DODO? Must be an aviation recruit/pilot trainee? Here we have Filipinos in training wearing an armband, embroidered insignia and a patch that looks similar to the US cadet training patch. What does DODO stand for/mean? They even have a poem nailed to the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vostoktrading Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share #7 Posted December 17, 2012 By the way, At the time, the Philippines were part of the United States Commonwealth and fought valiantly beside the US Army to defend their homeland against the Japanese invader. I hope the powers-that-be understand that this thread does indeed belong in this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vostoktrading Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share #8 Posted December 17, 2012 A few questions: The facial hair: What's the deal? These are American advisors with Philippine Forces. Some of them had full beards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vostoktrading Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share #9 Posted December 17, 2012 Tail end: Dummy Planes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vostoktrading Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share #10 Posted December 17, 2012 Embroidered insignia in 1941. For the patch/uniform people; interesting information. So many of these people in 1941 in the Philippines have embroidered insignia in place of metal in this theater/time period I thought it was worthy to note it. Even Louis Brereton, the commander of the USAAF in the Philippines at the time of the Japanese attack, has embroidered insignia in this 1941 pre-war dated photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vostoktrading Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share #11 Posted December 17, 2012 Finally, I wanted to show this air traffic controller from the AAF who seems to have a white tape like name tag on his uniform while performing his duty at Clark Field in November 1941. I didn't know they were used so early! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted December 17, 2012 Share #12 Posted December 17, 2012 A remarkable selection of images Jon! It isn't often we get to see "Peashooters" in service like that. The uniform details are superb too. Thanks for posting them! "MELEKALIKIMAKA!" Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagman Posted December 17, 2012 Share #13 Posted December 17, 2012 What is a DODO? Must be an aviation recruit/pilot trainee? Here we have Filipinos in training wearing an armband, embroidered insignia and a patch that looks similar to the US cadet training patch. What does DODO stand for/mean? They even have a poem nailed to the wall. The Dodo is an extinct flightless bird native to a region of the Indian Ocean. Ugly bugger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vostoktrading Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share #14 Posted December 17, 2012 The Dodo is an extinct flightless bird native to a region of the Indian Ocean. Ugly bugger! Hmm. Could be! I was thinking acronym but the simple answer is sometimes right... Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vostoktrading Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share #15 Posted December 17, 2012 A remarkable selection of images Jon! It isn't often we get to see "Peashooters" in service like that. The uniform details are superb too. Thanks for posting them! "MELEKALIKIMAKA!" Ian Thanks Ian, I found them to be a series of very interesting photos for several reasons. And P-26's too! Mostly for me, it is informative to see photos of our Filipino allies at the state of their military readiness (in the quality and morale of their manpower) far surpassing what I imagined it to be at that time. Pictures do indeed say a thousand words! Jon. "Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted December 17, 2012 Share #16 Posted December 17, 2012 Thanks Ian, I found them to be a series of very interesting photos for several reasons. And P-26's too! Mostly for me, it is informative to see photos of our Filipino allies at the state of their military readiness (in the quality and morale of their manpower) far surpassing what I imagined it to be at that time. Pictures do indeed say a thousand words! Jon. "Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda!" Diolch yn fawr Jon! / Thank you very much Jon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swag Posted December 24, 2012 Share #17 Posted December 24, 2012 Is that Villamor in posts 6 and 7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwb123 Posted December 24, 2012 Share #18 Posted December 24, 2012 This is rather poignant considering what was going to happen to these men very soon after these photos were taken... one wonders how many of them made it through the fighting. I like the makeshift control center with the gentleman sitting on top of a desk to get the overview. Not quite up to British Battle of Britain sophistication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyCanteen Posted December 24, 2012 Share #19 Posted December 24, 2012 I like the makeshift control center with the gentleman sitting on top of a desk to get the overview. Not quite up to British Battle of Britain sophistication. Quite so. Brings a new meaning to "keep your feet off your desk". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darktide Posted December 24, 2012 Share #20 Posted December 24, 2012 The pics are PAAC (Philippine Army Air Corps), not Philippine Air Force (PAF) as the PAF was formed after WW2. Pre-WW2 and during it was the PAAC. My father-in-law was a PAF general. He was a cadet at the Philippine Military Academy (PMA, the Philippine equivalent of West Point) when war broke out. The cadets were all sent home (some did fight the Japanese, in different capacities). I never asked my father-in-law what he did during the war as he never talked about it. However, most of his ribbons and medals are US. He became one of the first officers in the then new Philippine Air Force. I inherited most of his insignia and military stuff. The pilot's wings (pilot, senior pilot, command pilot) are interesting as they have the Philippine seal in the middle but are US made, by Meyer, New York. Apparently, the PAF still had their various insignia made by Meyer. I have some of his old bullion wings as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manayunkman Posted December 24, 2012 Share #21 Posted December 24, 2012 The pics are PAAC (Philippine Army Air Corps), not Philippine Air Force (PAF) as the PAF was formed after WW2. Pre-WW2 and during it was the PAAC. My father-in-law was a PAF general. He was a cadet at the Philippine Military Academy (PMA, the Philippine equivalent of West Point) when war broke out. The cadets were all sent home (some did fight the Japanese, in different capacities). I never asked my father-in-law what he did during the war as he never talked about it. However, most of his ribbons and medals are US. He became one of the first officers in the then new Philippine Air Force. I inherited most of his insignia and military stuff. The pilot's wings (pilot, senior pilot, command pilot) are interesting as they have the Philippine seal in the middle but are US made, by Meyer, New York. Apparently, the PAF still had their various insignia made by Meyer. I have some of his old bullion wings as well. Does this qualify for the Forum ? He was awarded US medals . Can you post some pictures of it ? If you do post do it in the Groupings section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1ashooter Posted December 24, 2012 Share #22 Posted December 24, 2012 Great pictures thanks for sharing them with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darktide Posted December 29, 2012 Share #23 Posted December 29, 2012 President Dwight D. Eisenhower learned to fly in a PAAC plane. He took "unscheduled" flying lessons under then PAAC chief Lt. William Lee. I have a pic of Eisenhower in a old book posing with other PAAC pilots in front of a BT-1 at Zablan Field in the Philippines in early 1940. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vostoktrading Posted December 29, 2012 Author Share #24 Posted December 29, 2012 Is that Villamor in posts 6 and 7? First of all, my apologies for the late reply. Yes indeed these are photos of the Filipino Ace Jesus Antonio Villamor. Born November 7, 1914 and died on October 28, 1971. That is him in posts 6 & 7 as well as 2 & 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vostoktrading Posted December 29, 2012 Author Share #25 Posted December 29, 2012 The pics are PAAC (Philippine Army Air Corps), not Philippine Air Force (PAF) as the PAF was formed after WW2. Pre-WW2 and during it was the PAAC. My father-in-law was a PAF general. He was a cadet at the Philippine Military Academy (PMA, the Philippine equivalent of West Point) when war broke out. The cadets were all sent home (some did fight the Japanese, in different capacities). I never asked my father-in-law what he did during the war as he never talked about it. However, most of his ribbons and medals are US. He became one of the first officers in the then new Philippine Air Force. I inherited most of his insignia and military stuff. The pilot's wings (pilot, senior pilot, command pilot) are interesting as they have the Philippine seal in the middle but are US made, by Meyer, New York. Apparently, the PAF still had their various insignia made by Meyer. I have some of his old bullion wings as well. Darktide, Thank you for this informative post. Would it be possible for you to post what information you know about insignia and collectibles concerning the Philippine forces before and after WW2? It seems there is a serious lack of understanding of what is pre-War and post-War when it comes to Philippine insignia. I feel bad because I have Filipino collectibles but don't have reliable references about their origin. I'm sure the Forum staff would welcome this information as bonifide US stuff as it concerns US involvement in WW2 in the Pacific because of reasons already stated. Thanks, Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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