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PAL RH-36 polished and blackened


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This thread is awesome!!!

I love the old pics of the pilot's with their shanks strapped to their legs

They look READY FOR ACTION!!! thumbsup.gif

 

I have a Pal Cutlery RH-51 that I like a lot.......

 

This was one of the more common fighting knives in the ETO, besides the M3 obviously, no?

That is pretty vague

Here is a good article I found on Mr. Trzaska's web site======>

Carter’s Classification for Combat Cutlery

 

There seems to be a mass delusion among the general public and some knife collectors that any knife ever touched, carried, or coveted by a military person therefore becomes a "military knife". Under this criteria, stretched far enough, everything made since 1900 or so is a military knife. Well, that is ridiculous. When everything is "military" then nothing is gained by using that term.

 

This confusion does not run rampant in arms collecting; that of bayonets, swords, and guns, because military issue patterns have long been studied, are well documented and most are property marked.

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OK, now Marines at Iwo Jima. Is that possible that left side Marine has two knives including one RH-36?

 

Greg,

 

It looks that way. Some guys liked to carry two knives. Here is a Marine in Saipan in 1944 talking to Japanese children--he's carrying two knives.

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Gregory, can you post the source for the USMC pic? In your blown up pic, partially showing behind the mag pouch on the carbine stock is a half view of a compass pouch and it appears to have snaps rather than LTD fasteners. There are several of us that have been trying to ID that pouch for a few years now. Are there any other pics in the series that may show this pouch better?

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Gregory, can you post the source for the USMC pic? In your blown up pic, partially showing behind the mag pouch on the carbine stock is a half view of a compass pouch and it appears to have snaps rather than LTD fasteners. There are several of us that have been trying to ID that pouch for a few years now. Are there any other pics in the series that may show this pouch better?

Hello Craig,

 

I have it on CD and do not know if it was published in any book. The source is:

 

NARA

General Records of the Department of the Navy 1798-1947

Record Group Number 80

Item Number 80-G-30532

 

I sent you now high-res TIFF file with this pic thus it will be useful for you.

 

Best regards

 

Greg

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Greg,

 

It looks that way. Some guys liked to carry two knives. Here is a Marine in Saipan in 1944 talking to Japanese children--he's carrying two knives.

Thanks Gunbarrel! A very nice photo showing that not only killing is at war.

 

Best regards

 

Greg

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  • 1 year later...
Cardinal Patrol

Charlie,

 

You are exactly correct, the Marine flying in your picture does have a Pal RH-36. This is Captain Floyd C. Kirkpatrick of VMF-441 - he is adding another victory flag to the side of his F4U-1D Corsair "Palpitatin' Paulie" (named for his then wife - they later divorced). He shot down 5 1/2 Japanese aircraft while flying with the Black Jack Squadron on Okinawa. This was a staged photo for the press guys.

 

I know for sure it is an RH-36 because I own the actual knife. On the back of the sheath is scratched "VMF-441" with "Kirk" very small in a corner. It appears to have been blackened at one time but has been sharpened alot. The groove still has original looking finish. I also have letters and photos from his widow as I am in the process of writing a history for the unit.

 

Mike

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PALRH36.jpg

 

Beautiful examples thumbsup.gif . I love the contrast in style and use. Personally I like the blued or parkerized blades over the shiny ones and certainly will opt to add examples to my collection with that "been there and done that" look over a pristine example.

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Tim

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Charlie,

 

You are exactly correct, the Marine flying in your picture does have a Pal RH-36. This is Captain Floyd C. Kirkpatrick of VMF-441 - he is adding another victory flag to the side of his F4U-1D Corsair "Palpitatin' Paulie" (named for his then wife - they later divorced). He shot down 5 1/2 Japanese aircraft while flying with the Black Jack Squadron on Okinawa. This was a staged photo for the press guys.

 

I know for sure it is an RH-36 because I own the actual knife. On the back of the sheath is scratched "VMF-441" with "Kirk" very small in a corner. It appears to have been blackened at one time but has been sharpened alot. The groove still has original looking finish. I also have letters and photos from his widow as I am in the process of writing a history for the unit.

 

Mike

 

Mike:

 

That is AMAZING that you own the actual RH-36 shown in the wartime photo of Capt. Kirkpatrick. What a great piece of history. Can you please post some pics of it here?

 

Please let us know when your unit history is published. I would love to hear more about the Captain and VMF-441.

 

Regards,

Charlie Flick

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Cardinal Patrol
Mike:

 

That is AMAZING that you own the actual RH-36 shown in the wartime photo of Capt. Kirkpatrick. What a great piece of history. Can you please post some pics of it here?

 

Please let us know when your unit history is published. I would love to hear more about the Captain and VMF-441.

 

Regards,

Charlie Flick

 

I have not had any success loading pictures on the site yet. Keeps telling me the file is too large. I will try to make the file smaller.

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Cardinal Patrol
Mike:

 

That is AMAZING that you own the actual RH-36 shown in the wartime photo of Capt. Kirkpatrick. What a great piece of history. Can you please post some pics of it here?

 

Please let us know when your unit history is published. I would love to hear more about the Captain and VMF-441.

 

Regards,

Charlie Flick

 

Charlie,

 

Here is another photo of Kirkpatrick with the RH-36. (Still working on the photo of the knife.)

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Cardinal Patrol

Sorry it has been so long since I last posted here. Lot of personal reasons - but here are the photos of Floyd C. Kirkpatrick's RH-36 knife. I picked this knife up at a gun and knife show in Dayton, Ohio at least 15 years ago.

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