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Who decided to change the badge from line to chain? Thanks.

 

 

Regards,

 

 

The Wharfmaster

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In Peace and War. US Merchant Marine.

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Who decided to change the badge from line to chain? Thanks.

 

 

Regards,

 

 

The Wharfmaster

 

In Peace and War. US Merchant Marine.

 

Wharfmaster,

The only reference I've seen is on the San Diego Navy Historical Association website.

 

- The device again changed in 1941, it is not listed in the uniform regulations but in the uniform specifications. The device changed from the twisted wire to chain. This is yet unsubstantiated as we have not been able to find a copy of the uniform specifications. The information comes from collectors who have collected and sold the devices for more than 30 years.

 

http://www.quarterde.../HatDevices.htm

 

R/ Ben

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The Uniform Regulations before WW2 described and illustrated officers' items in great detail, but the CPO cap device was kind of ignored, without much description or close-up illustrations. The 1922 edition, describing the cable, is an exception. In 1941 they went back to describing the CPO anchor more vaguely. The only illustration is of the entire cap, but the anchor is fouled with a cable, not a chain:

 

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In the 1943 "Naval Officer's Uniform Plan", which the Navy Department put out as a guide for those new to purchasing navy uniforms, the anchor is illustrated with a cable:post-3982-0-78288000-1354328348.jpg

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The 1947 regulations were not illustrated, but again the description doesn't specify chain or cable. The 1951 edition doesn't, either, but finally includes a detailed illustration:

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My guess is that, absent more detailed specs, some maker(s) began to use a chain and for whatever reason it caught on and became standard.

 

Justin B.

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I'm finally home and able to get organized, from left to right.

 

#1 U.S. Naval Clothing Factory - I know it isn't an anchor, but I believe it preceded the anchor from 1893 - 1897.

#2 No markings

#3 No Markings

#4 A E Co.

#5 No Markings

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Left to Right - Looking for the third type of Senior Chief Anchor here...not 100% sure it exists?

 

#1 V-21-N Vanguard

#2 W-22-N Vanguard

#3 V-21-N Vanguard

#4 V-21-N Vanguard

#5 V-21-N Vanguard (I know this is a fake but it's still a good display piece.)

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Left to Right

 

#1 Amico Sterling +1/20 10k

#2 I can't make out the mark, I'll post it later to see if any of you can make it out.

#3 Sterling

#4 Another one I can't make out, Acid Test

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I'm missing the middle one, I got this off of the San Diego Navy Historical Association website.

 

This example shows three different collar devices. The one on the left was purchased in 1961, the middle one was purchased in 1982 while the one on the right was purchased in 1993.

 

I assumed you were referring to the collar devices?

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I'm hoping to get some help with the markings on a few of my anchors. I believe this one may say Amcraft across the top, not sure what it says underneath?

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